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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. brobear

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  2. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    You might also want to create and entire setup of of an earlier version of RB. Just did an encode the other day with 0.93 because for some reason RB 1.00 RC2 kept failing at 70% rebuild phase. I wish I could have been of more help but I haven't done many episodic, in fact the Monty Python's Flying Circus series is the only one that I did completely.
     
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    Sophocles,

    Nice speed using DVD-RB. It makes it a little easier justifying that PC upgrade that one would want but shouldn't have.
     
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    I thought that the first one coming in at 76 minutes had to be a mistake so I did a completely different movie and it came it at 74 minutes. What's amazing is that I'm using an AMD 64 3500 2.2ghz@2.5 ghz. The encoding edge has always been on Intel's side but I think that AMD is putting that notion to rest with the new Venice core (it now has SSE3).
     
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    It seems DVD-RB is only encoding VTS_4 which explains why a DVD over 180 minutes DVD took only a few minutes to encode. So I think I know what is going on, my DVD-RB setup is fine after checking many times and trying to figure out what is the most likely possibility and I recall reading somewhere that when selecting movie & menu mode, DVD-RB blanks out extras so it usually blanks out VTS files that are smaller in file size compared to the largest VTS available. At least thats what I'm hoping the problem is, I'll try full disc mode and blank the extras with Vob blanker before. I still don't quite understand how this problem came about when the DVD structure to Season 9 Disc 1 is pretty much the same. Well I'll keep you guys posted on how this turns out...

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    Sorry for such a newbie question but my RB is not shrinking my DVD 9 to DVD 5 despite adding the CCETargetSectors line in the ini file. Do I have it set up right? Here is a copy of the ini:

    [Options]
    SkinVersion=3
    CCE=3
    OneClick=1
    AudioDub=0
    idct7Opt=1
    HalfD1=0000000
    CCETargetSectors=2260000
    Convert_16_9=0000000
    DisableInterlace=0000000
    [Audio]
    Selected=111101111
    [Subpictures]
    Selected=100100100100
    [Paths]
    CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\CCE SP Trial Version\cctspt.exe
    DECOMB=C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My Documents\My Downloaded Programs\DVD Rebuilder\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
    MPEG2DEC=C:\Documents and Settings\HP_Owner\My Documents\My Downloaded Programs\DVD Rebuilder\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
    Source=E:\VIDEO_TS\
    Working=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\HP_OWNER\MY DOCUMENTS\DVD TEMP\
    Output=C:\DOCUMENTS AND SETTINGS\HP_OWNER\MY DOCUMENTS\DVD TEMP\
    [Setup]


    I am using the latest CopytoDvd to burn the DVD. The Video TS folder is 7.81GB in size after using the above settings.
     
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    If you're having trouble setting up DVD-RB why not opt for Rockas' DVD-RB all in one installer.

    http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=14

    Make sure you scroll down for the full installer, the reason I mention this is because I see mpeg2dec3dg.dll being used rather than dgdecode which is what is recommended today and I should add much faster.

    About the X-Files Season 9 Disc 2 problem I've been having, its been solved. I blanked out the extras with Vob Blanker and ran the DVD through DVD-RB in full disc mode without a problem. Thanks to those for their recommendations concerning the matter.;-)
     
  8. brobear

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    sghrush
    First of all I'll agree with HKT3020, instead of trouble shooting, it will save time and trouble to just delete the setup you have and use the Rockas installer, it's fast and easy. Also, he is correct on the DGDecode. Only on rare occasions would one want to revert to the Mpeg2Dec3 decoder. Personally, I haven't seen one of those rare occasions. Be sure you have an acceptable version of AviSynth installed before you begin the installation. Some of the later beta versions won't work. The last I checked, AviSynth 2.56 beta 1 and DGDecode 1.2.0 will work with Rebuilder. AviSynth 2.56 beta 2 and DGDecode 1.2.1 will not. Don't worry about the DGDecode, that is included with the Rockas installer. You can get the AviSynth download from SourceFORGE.net http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57023 . Use the 2.5.5 ( http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=57023&package_id=72557&release_id=264874 ), anything later and it may not work.
     
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    HI

    I have a quick question. Is there any difference in quality, between CCE SP 2.66, 2.67, 2.70 ????
    Let's say you encode a movie with the same settings in DVD-RB, VBR bias = 25 Q prec = 16, 4 Pass, but with different CCE (2.66,2.67,2.70).Will be any difference in picture quality between the 3 mentioned encoders ( clarity, sharpness, color...)??????


     
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    I doubt that there's any difference in quality between any of them.
     
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    Thanks guys. I will try the Rockas installer and see if this makes a difference in RB's ability to shrink a DVD 9 to DVD 5.
     
  12. brobear

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    sghrush
    Just remember the AviSynth and to delete the old setup first. Loading over tends to use previous settings. The Rockas installer installs the EclCCE depending on the need, so no problem there. In case you wonder, SP trials prior to 2.7 needed EclCCE to function with RB. If you're serious about using RB, I would suggest buying the Basic, if I remember correctly, it is only about $58. Beginners have had a lot of trouble with the SP trials and besides, they leave the CCE logo on the video output.

    Jerry77
    From the above, note what I said about EclCCE. There is the big difference in the trials as far as usage. As far as quality, that's remained pretty much the same high quality as always.
     
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    Thank you very much guys!
     
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    Brobear,

    I have CCE SP 2.67. Is there any difference in quality between CCE SP2.67 and the latest CCE Basic?
     
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    When RB finished Team America(installed with Rockas Installer and using AVI Synth 2.5.5), it showed a invalid path 75 runtime error. What does this mean?
     
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    That error occurs when the source path is no longer available (and it needs to be). It usually happens when it is being read from a pseudo drive (like Daemon Tools) that has been dismounted or from a network drive that is not available for some reason.

    It's a really hard error to capture (and actually know what it is) because you might successfully get a directory (because its cached) and think everything is fine -- and then die during a read attempt.
     
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    I just couldn't resist posting this.


    Pitch Black

    Copied from RB status log.

    "Movie and Menus Only" mode is enabled.


    14:16:52] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 2 minutes.


    [15:28:43] Phase II ENCODING completed in 72 minutes.



    [15:38:58] Phase III, REBUILD completed in 10 minutes.

    Done.
    [15:38:58] PREPARE/ENCODE/REBUILD completed in 84 min.



    Not quite as fast as my two previous posts of 74 and 76 minutes but still quite fast compared to my previous experiences. The only change that I made in my setup was under avs options/advanced/ set decoder idct/32 bit SSE2/MMX.
     
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    Wow. What time were you getting before the change?
     
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    Always at least 2 and half hours or more and the only change that I made in setup was under avs options, advanced options, set decoder IDCT. Instead of using the default I chose 32 bit SSE2/MMX. I even played the movies all they way through to make sure that there wasn't a few missing files in the middle somewhere. I don't know if that helped but I'm certain that whatever encoding deficits that AMD used to have when compared to Intel, is not apparent in the new AMD 64 bit 3500+ Venice core.

    It's over clocked from 2.2 ghz to 2.497 ghz and it still runs idle between 33 and 35 degrees Celsius and it has never climbed above 48 degree under full load. I also added 2 gigs of Corsair XMS CAS2 RAM and a Seagate NCQ hard disk. In a bench test I read on Anandtech testing AMD Venice cores using DVD Shrink, they noticed an unusual speed increase of almost 20 minutes. Further testing revealed that the difference was to NCQ.


    Here are some benchmarks that I made with sisoft and as you my measures are labeled current CPU.


    http://www.zentarium.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=27

    http://www.zentarium.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=28

    http://www.zentarium.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=29


    These are by no means exceptional scores but they are good and they might reveal the cause behind my speed gains.
     
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    Sorry to interrupt but I still have a few questions that I still don't have the answers for.

    1) Since DVD-RB does such a great job with encoding will there really be any visible difference to choose "main movie only" instead of the entire disc. I figure since the encoding level doesn't seem to matter as much as it does with Shrink and Recode that I should just always use full disc backup.

    2) Can anybody provide me with a link to where to 'UPDATE' CCE Basic 2.70? I've looked everywhere including the visible light and CCE homepage and found nothing. Is it even necessary to update CCE Basic since the encoder already produces great results. Will the updates even matter? I suppose nobody updates there CCE.

    3) Is it possible to undo the menu locks like Shrink and Recode so I can pop a disc in and press menu and go straight to the menu? Usually I get the ghostbusters logo during some trailers, disclaimers and company logos that I usually don't have to sit through when using Shrink or Recode. This feature, imho would make this app perfect.


    3) I'm interested in 1.0 pro because I want to try the movie only although it seems DVD-RB does such a great job that I can just do full DVDs from now on only removing unwanted audio tracks. Where can I download it? If I have to donate, how much must I donate and "WHERE" do I donate.

    4) Whats all this about using DVD Remake with DVD-RB?

    Thanks for any help.
     

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