Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

As another experiment I took the Unbreakable ISO and ran it through DVDRB, Movie Only, No Compression mode. The DVDRB ouput seems to play back fine, but when I try to load into Shrink it gives me an error.

"DVD Shrink encountered an error and cannot continue. Invalid DVD navigation structure."

I checked every part of the ISO for errors during playback, and there were no problems. Shrink will also load and process the whole ISO itself with no problems. I will try the No Compression option with Whitesquall and see what I get.

 

@Calibum,

I am curious as to why after succesfully running it through DVD-RB you want to then run it through Shrink??

It should be small enough where Shrink would not do anything other than maybe output to ISO format if you didn't have DVD-RB do it to begin with??

I don't understand doing this if DVD-RB was Succesful??

 

No reason. Just a cross check on the files because I was seeing strange results on the DVDRB output. The file output sizing was abnormal and the final VOB interleaved file (that only included credits) was pretty large.

 

I've fixed that, and it will be out in an interim version soon. Just so you know, it's not a big deal -- the disc should still work fine... there was an off-by-one sector pointer error that is confusing Shrink.

 

@Calibum

If you are using RC4 you should remove any "ILVU_PREVENT_VTS_CROSSING" settings in the INI if you want the VTS file sizes to be consistent.

 

I've got to try and keep up with what's going on in this thread. I've been spending my time building dvdhounds.com and I have definitely fallen behind. I haven't been experiencing any problems with RB so I've been trying to follow those of others.

jdobbs

Do you recommend the "ILVU_PREVENT_VTS_CROSSING" setting?

 

I'd recommend leaving it out if you have Version RC4 or greater. If you leave it on it won't hurt anything, but based upon research I've done recently, I think it is unnecessary.

 

Then I'll leave it out.

 

jdobbs, Thanks for your feedback. I will leave it out also.

 

"ILVU_PREVENT_VTS_CROSSING"
I've done it with and without using RC4 and noticed no difference. Just so I won't run into a problem, I'll leave it off since it's no longer needed.

 

New Error in Nero - "DVD_Video files reallocation failed."

Sorry if this is an old problem, but I ran into this for the first time with Nero. I checked a few threads and they all have different ways of fixing this problem, primarily using IFOEdit, which I am not familiar with at all. Anyone have suggestions? The playback is fine and the sizing seems correct. What's up with Nero?

 

Nero does a lot of checks that aren't (at least in my opinion) actually necessary in order to remain standards compliant. The "zero length file" check is a good example. Not sure about this one, though. Are you burning an ISO or a VIDEO_TS directory?

 

VIDEO_TS directory, pretty standard stuff. This is the first time I have seen that error. Some people report that the media will not play back after the burn, and then others say just ignor the error altogether. This would be a good time for some RW media to experiment with in the player, but I dont have any.

 

Have you modified any of the files in VIDEO_TS after DVD-RB created it? Ran any utilities against it, etc? Usually you can ignore the Nero messages -- but I'm not sure I've heard this one mentioned.

 

It's been a while and I don't remember the exact Nero message. However, it was to the effect that there might be a problem with the burn. I went ahead and the output played well. The problem was caused by structural encryption on the DVD. Nero was questioning the structure of the encoded source.

Running the files through Shrink at no compression will often straighten up the structure. Some say that leads to a slight softening of the contrast of the video output. Usually, still a decent video. Might be simpler than IFOedit if you're not familiar with it. I usually try the burn first. If I'm really suspicious, I'll use an RW.

It pays to keep a couple of the RW around. I've still got the one that came with the drive. It's a Memorex made by Philips and it just keeps recording with good results. I'm just wondering how long it will last. As noted, they can save some wasted media if the burn is problematic.

 

@jdobbs

Nope. All files are as output from DVDRB, Movie Only, CCE encoded. I usually only post questions now if the standard process gives me something abnormal. In this case, it was this Nero error I had not come across before.

@brobear

It was actually here in this forum that I first learned that 'No Compression' in Shrink actually affects the final product. It was turning out to be my favorite editing tool. Then I got that sick feeling in my stomach when I found it, had quite a number of backups burned already. I am a purist. I don't have the large screen yet (but I will soon) so I did not really "see" what the output of Shrink looked like when blown up bigtime.

 

I'd like to know what Nero finds. If there is a problem I can fix it... but I'm not confident there is a problem. I've burned several hundred discs and have never gotten a complaint from B's Recorder Gold...

I'd also like to know if IFOEDIT finds anything -- but I've also seen instances where IFOEDIT isn't correct. In fact I've even seen IFOEDIT make corrections to IFOs that it created itself in a previous correction!

 

Calibum,
Splurge and gamble a few cents. Go ahead and burn the DVD output in question to see if it will play or not. My past experiences have been good, though limited in number. Afterall, the cost of one DVD isn't that much. Nero actually asked questions and did a burn that wouldn't go through VSO's CopyToDVD. The burned video played great, no problems. I think jdobbs may be correct, there may be no problem. You may just be seeing a manifestation of the structural changes done by the studios to try to prevent copying.

You need to get some of the RW media for situatiions such as this one. However, it may not tell you a lot unless your standalone also plays RW.

 

Risk a coaster? Treason! That's like sending my child to walk the plank...

OK ok gee-wiz, I'll try it, but only because I like you guys (gals?). I assumed one of yous would have come up with a smarter answer instead. If it does not work, and jdobbs has a fix, I want to be honored in the next News release. Here goes $0.35 for nothin'

 

I have been getting these errors with nero also.DVD_Video files reallocation failed.It has happened 3 times with my backups.1st with harry potter 1st one and then with the 3rd harry potter movie.It happened tonight while backing up hostage.I burned the files on all three and they all play great.