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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. brobear

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    Thanks mace. Seems Calibum wants a technical solution when the R&D at VSO and Nero are still scratching their heads. As I said, I've noticed it usually involves DVDs with structural encryption. The software is merely seeing structure it's not familiar with and therein lies the reason for the burner analyzing and keying on the output. If anyone is interested, they could run an experiment using the decrypted source before encoding to DVD5 and see if it will burn to DVD9. That should show if it's the source or just the encoded files for the DVD5. They wouldn't have to push the final button to burn, just see if it would set up to burn. Personally, I suspect the source files. I'm not buying DL media until the prices come down; so, I won't be doing the experiment.
     
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    Calibum,
    The point that was being made was there is likely no problem to fix.
    That is why Nero allows you to burn a disc. I have seen the error you mention many times over the last year. Not as much anymore. It has never been a problem. Just a curiosity in the way Nero works.
    Since I use ISOs to burn I rarely get to see this now.
     
  3. jdobbs

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    I personally think you are better off just letting DVD-RB create an ISO and burning it with DVD Decrypter.
     
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    @jdobs,

    [bold]I personally think you are better off just letting DVD-RB create an ISO and burning it with DVD Decrypter.[/bold]


    I agree! I have had no problem burning the ISO's created with DVD-RB using Decrypter.

     
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    @jdobs,
    Thanks for providing this wonderful utility. I used the dvdrebuilder first time today. I am having some problems. I used DVD-RB v093a with cce sp 2.67(retail) and the output video has black (no video?) and the size is only 2.7 gb. original disk is about 7 gb. I exactly followed the guide for setting all values for one click.
     
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    Hi @rockas,
    Thanks for your reply. I didnt use the installer. That might be the problem. I will use the installer and see if it works.
     
  8. brobear

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    The black screen could indicate a problem with the AviSynth setup. Be sure to install a version 2.5.5 or below. Newer versions don't work with RB. At least they didn't the last time I tried it. The latest versions I found to work are AviSynth 2.56 beta 1 and DGDecode 1.2.0. AviSynth 2.56 beta 2 and DGDecode 1.2.1 would not work with Rebuilder. I don't believe betas are tested with RB so just use the 2.5.5. Just be sure to use the the right version of AviSynth and have it installed and the Rockas installer will take care of the rest for you. Noticed you said you were going to use it, it saves a bunch of time trying to figure where things went wrong in a manual installation.
     
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  9. Calibum

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    jdobbs, What ever you did in the RC4.1, fixed on those problems I was seeing on those two interleaving projects. Thanks.
     
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    I was able to make dvd using demo version of rb and cce sp2.67. It took me 3.5 hrs (P4-2.88 , 768mb, and 40gig free disk space). I used only 2 passes. The quality of the output was ok (not better than shrink with max sharpeness) and the movie freezes 30-40 min. before the ending. What are the settings i messed it up? Do i have to use rb pro version or cce basic? I am a new bee. Thanks in advace.
     
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    Every now and then I get one right...

    All I can assume, then, is that the source you had must be incredibly easy to compress...
     
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    it was horry potter and the chamber of secrets
     
  13. jdobbs

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    Make sure you use the Rockas Installer (downloadable at www.dvd-rb.com). Also, many unpredictable things can happen when you use "variants" of the CCE SP Trial version. I'd suggest you do your first encode using the HC encoder.

    As for the speed... quality encoding simply takes longer than transcoding. It's a trade-off that can't be avoided. I must say, though, that's pretty slow for your machine. I'd have predicted more like 2-3 hours. My guess would be that your drive is fragmented... but as I say, that's just a guess.

     
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  14. brobear

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    Since I've done encodes with a similar system, I can add that jdobbs is right, the times are excessive for a sytem with those resources. Defrag the drive and clear the memory. Use the System cleanup in accessories if your OS has it. Reboot the system, as you may have noticed, a PC that has been on for a long time starts running slower. Sometimes spyware and adware gets on a PC from surfing the net. AdAware and Spybot are a couple of good freebies for cleaning up a system. On occasion it's advisable to run a Reg cleaner. You can find them at http://www.download.com or google for their websites. I can add from personal experience that I've noticed the SP 2.67 trial is slower than the CCE Basic Retail for some reason (encoding the same files and set to 2 passes on SP to match Basic, with same configuration settings and only difference the encoder).
     
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    FYI (Probably the wrong place for this post...).

    I normally run Nero CD-DVD Disc Quality check on every burn to verify the final read results. Tonight, I just switched to Verbatim 8x from Ritek 16x media. My write speed is always set at 4x, but I noticed a large drop in the Avg PI Errors using the Verbatim. It went from Avg PI error of ~30 to ~1.5. Assuming it makes a difference in quality, take note.

     
  16. brobear

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    You're right.
     
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    Hi all,
    Anyone know where is I can have a page setup for DVD-Rebuilder v.93 Beta.? I confused at setup Option (AVS) in DVD-Rebuilder, Which one I have a choice and check mark? Also I have one question.
    - Procoder and CCE. Which one is best for Video Encode ?
    Thanks for Your help.
     
  18. jdobbs

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    Just leave all the settings at their default value and you will be fine. I personally prefer CCE, but there are others who say ProCoder is better on interlaced sources. CCE is significantly faster.
     
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    Thanks for Your answer My question., One more question. After I Encoded with CCE v.2.7.0.2 Trial. Video output anything ok excepts for the Edge of the object lightly blur, Mean not clear. Can I fix that problem?
    Thanks
     
  20. jdobbs

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    Hmmm... that's unusual for CCE. You might try adjusting the "Quality Prec" value down a little (under the CCE Advanced settings of CCE Options). The default level is 16, try 8 or so. This will use more of the available bandwidth for edges. But with all adjustments there is a trade-off, you may see some sacrifice in flat area contouring as a result.
     
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