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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. qwik4a6

    qwik4a6 Guest

    I'm thinking this be some new kind of encryption. I tried for the 4th time last night and I removed the VTS_4 files and it hung at the next VTS files.
    I also gave nero recode 2 a shot at it, and it completed it without any problems in the log file, I went to play the movie and the previews and menus were in tact, however when trying to play the main movie, it shut down the player. I then fooled around and was able to get the movie to play but have no idea how. I couldn't get it to play again. Every menu option would fail even though I copied the entire disk.
    I then used CloneDVD2 and it worked but the movie came out somewhat poor quality with some hitching.

    Can't do ISO, I think only the pro version has that option.

    If I run anydvd in the background and then rip with decrypter, The DVD should be ripped without any copy protection? Even if decrypter fails to catch something, anydvd should pick it up since both are running correct?

    I still don't know why RB can't finish, it's the only movie that has giving me problems.

    I have over 200 gigs of free space.

    Can't do ISO, I think only the pro version has that option.
     
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  2. brobear

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    You mentioned a 160 GB hard drive, glad it's growing. I inquired about the size as it takes a lot of space for RB to work. Even with large hard drives some people have a tendency to use them up. I know I use a lot of space backing up movies and waiting to do the burns later. With RB, you need about 2 or more times the source size to do a backup, depending on the encoder. Then there's the space needed for the system to operate. May not be a problem, but worthy of note at this point. ISO just adds to the space requirements is why I asked. I keep forgetting everyone doesn't have all the nice options included in RB Pro.

    If clonedvd2 did the transcode, then that seems to indicate a problem with the RB/CCE setup. After all, you had to decrypt the DVD for this app to work. I still wonder about some of those SP trials. AnyDVD is kept up to date and I've not heard of any new encryptions that are giving problems at present (then I don't catch everything). I heard the heavy encryption is still being developed for use with the newer high definition DVDs.

    RB only encodes what is fed into it using the encoder of choice that is supported. DVD Decrypter is a good ripper and I've used it on numerous occasions with AnyDVD. To date the backups have been excellent. Though Kung Fu Hustle isn't something I'd normally watch, I'll pick it up for the kids and give it a go to see if I can recreate the problem you're having. Since there hasn't been a lot of posts on problems with KFH, I suspect you have a problem in your setup. You may want to splurge and buy the retail version of CCE Basic. Though it doesn't do quite as well as SP, it's over $1900 less expensive. Then there's the HC encoder that is free; that may just be with the Pro. But then a donation for the Pro is most reasonable and you can get a complete setup using RB/HC.
     
  3. qwik4a6

    qwik4a6 Guest

    brobear,
    Thanks for the advice.
    I am going to re-install both RB and CCE later today.
    If it's only this movie that is giving me a problem, then I won't worry to much, I will be backing up a few more movies later this week.

    The thing is, CloneDVD2 did work but it wasn't pretty (stuttering), and nero recode 2 had a go at it and it wouldn't play(menus were all screwed up). Who knows.....that's why I'm thinking it's not RB but the disk giving me grief.
     
  4. brobear

    brobear Guest

    Did you run a check on the original source DVD with something like DVDInfoPro to check for read/write errors? Not all discs are top quality; sometimes you get a bad press (that can still play in a standalone) or a surface blem that can affect the read. I checked around and it seems the DVD KFH has the Sony ARccOS and bad sector encryption. AnyDVD has no problem handling these. Some members said they did this DVD by just using DVD Decrypter alone to rip the files, various transcoders, encoders, and burners were used. The key to using any encoder or transcoder is in getting a good clean source for input. It just boils down to "problem in, problem out" in a lot of cases.

    If your reinstall doesn't help, I'd suggest trying another disc, just return the one you have and tell the store you had a problem with it (and you have, just don't add you were doing a backup). Out of curiosity, what does DVDInfoPro show when you check the DVD? I'd try checking the DVD and possibly using another before doing the reinstall. It could just be a problematic disc.
     
  5. qwik4a6

    qwik4a6 Guest

    brobear,
    I think that's what I will do. I will post back with the results. probably later this week. Once I can get to the store to do an exhange.
     
  6. brobear

    brobear Guest

    The DVDInfoPro has a retail and free version, http://www.dvdinfopro.com/ . Try the free one and let us know what the test results were on your current disc. If it doesn't have a problem with errors then you may still be looking at a clean install of your setup.
     
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  7. 64026402

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    Are you overclocking, and what are your memory settings.

    You might try the previous version or get the pro version.
     
  8. brobear

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    Donald,
    He's already mentioned the problem is specific to the one disc.
    I checked and there's nothing special about the DVD. It has Sony ARccOS and bad sector encryption, and AnyDVD and/or DVD Decrypter can handle the decryption with ease.

    If it was an overclocking problem, he'd be having problems across the board. I already suggested the Pro, it's up to him to donate if he wants. He'll get more than what he's paid for with a small donation. Before the Pro releases, we were using the beta releases the same as everyone else and they worked fine. I wouldn't want to go back because I appreciate the extras with the Pro. That doesn't mean the free version doesn't work well for what it does. There is more than likely a problem with the disc being used. Even a fault in the setup wouldn't normally allow for some movies to encode and a particular one not, especially when there is nothing out of the ordinary about the DVD that doesn't encode properly. I guess we'll see when he tries another DVD. I'm still curious to see what the test of the disc would show.
     
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  9. qwik4a6

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    I'm pretty sure it's the Kung Fu Disk and not RB or Decrytor.

    I just finished backing up Master and Commander, without any problems.

    I won't be able to test the disk for sure until tomorrow or Wed.

    But I will report back once I do an exchange.
     
  10. brobear

    brobear Guest

    Looks more and more like the problem is with the KFH disk as you succeed with other DVDs. I'd almost bet a cool brew on it now.
     
  11. hummus19

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    Sorry if this has been asked to death, but with a 102 page thread, its kinda hard to go through every post.


    Anway, here is where i am at: DvDDecrypter to copy full ET disk 2 to HD. Prepare phase of RB (1.0) works fine but when it tries to encode i get something to the effect of "V00000010010 says complete, but no m2v file found, aborted"

    No error number or anything like that. ANyone have any idea what i am doing wrong?
     
  12. brobear

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    Have you done other DVDs successfully or is this the first attempt with RB?
     
  13. hummus19

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    this is my first attempt. its been a really frustrating one.
     
  14. brobear

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    Don't see why. First of all you only needed to install Avisynth v2.5.5. Install your encoder of choice, most of us like CCE. Then use the Rockas installer from http://www.dvd-rb.com and you have it. Then all you need do is get a good decrypted source to feed it using something like DVD Decrypter. Once you encode, you use your burner of choice. DVD Decrypter does a good job of burning when you choose the ISO option, may only be in Pro, I forget. But there's no longer any thing difficult about the install. All the info and some of the downloads are at the RB link I gave you.

    Did you do the installation manually or with the Rockas installer? What version of Avisynth did you use and which encoder and version? If manually installed, which version of the decoder is in use?
     
  15. hummus19

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    i have done everything to the lettter that you just said. i used dvddecrypter to rip the movie. i used the installer from that site, am using cce sp 2.5 and avsynth 2.5.5. i get the ERROR as encoding starts.
     
  16. qwik4a6

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    hummas,
    Make sure you set the links in RB for CCE....

    Especially the application Paths....for CCE link the 1st 3 path options to the .exe file for CCE. Sometime's RB is a little picky as to what version you have, so just give all 3 path options the root to find the .exe of CCE.
     
  17. brobear

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    Did you install the encoder, CCE SP 2.5, before or after you installed the Rebuilder?
     
  18. hummus19

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  19. brobear

    brobear Guest

    Sounds as though you did everything in the right order. There's no issues with 2.5 though it is an older app. The installer sets the path for the EclCCE, you might want to check that out to make sure it's set properly to the exe file in the encoder folder. I don't have EclCCE set up right now and don't remember exactly which file it is. It'll be in notepad format though. Also double check the paths you've set. In the RB folder you'll find a file named rebuilder-Configuration Settings. It will open in Notepad format. Copy the contents here. At this point I'm thinking you may need to delete the setup and try reinstalling it, don't load over. It sounds like a flaw with the setup or the encoder. If you do that, make sure all your files come form the RB site or SourceForge.

    Normally with the Rockas installer, the program fires up and works like a top with the installation being painless. It was more interesting when we were doing installs manually. Out of curiosity, what PC brand and model are you using, the CPU and speed, and operating system? I like to get a picture of what's being used.
     
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  20. jerry77

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    HI
    There are differences in CCE SP 2.66,2.67 and 2.70 !!!
    I encoded a movie ( Devil's Advocate PAL ) with DVD-RB and CCE 2.66 first and then with CCE 2.70. The video of CCE 2.66 has lot of noise and is a litle bit sharper! On the other side CCE 2.70 has less noise and is more pleasant to watch! I wrote this couse everybody keep saying that are no differences beetween CCE's - but they are !
    And the settings were all the same Q prec=16,VBR bias=25,2 pass !
    Did anyone notice this???
     

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