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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. blueside

    blueside Member

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    Interesting, I just tried an older version of DVD-RB and CCE, and only got 2.8GB output again. I had disabled the steal space from extras feature.

    Hmm...maybe I need to put the CCETargetsectors in my rebuilder.ini?
     
  2. jdobbs

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    If you are missing by that much something else is wrong. What do you have set for TargetSectors now?
     
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  3. blueside

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    Well, I played around with the TargetSectors until the prepare function showed that I'd have something close to 4.3GB for video files.

    So I set it at 2550000, but then the output was 2.5GB. So it appears that the TargetSectors isn't doubled like it should be, but comes out almost exactly at what you set it to.

    I'll try something like 4400000 tonight.


    EDIT - spoke too soon as it was the whole output folder that was 2.5GB, the VIDEO_TS folder is only 1.7GB.
     
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  4. jdobbs

    jdobbs Regular member

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    That's the wrong thing to do. Something else is wrong if you are getting sizing that far off.... When properly configured DVD Rebuilder will be consistently within 1% of the TargetSectors setting.
     
  5. blueside

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    What would you suggest I do instead? I installed a new version of DVD-RB, updated CCE and it says that space for video is 3.6GB on completion of the preparation phase.

    Is that going to be the final output size as well?
     
  6. brobear

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    Blueside

    Quite a while back I ran into the same problem and writing in TargetSector commands did nothing to help. The reload of the entire RB/CCE setup straightened the problem out.

    Delete your entire setup, AviSynth, CCE, RB, the whole 9 yards using Add Remove in the Control Panel. Reboot and check to see if any files are left, delete them manually, if any are left; sometimes remnants get left behind. Clean your system; Adaware, Spybot, your AV software, whatever utilities you have, run them; a reg cleaner would be nice. Like anything else, adware and spyware can have an effect on the way your encoder apps work. Then in this order reload the software: v2.55 AviSynth and CCE first (order not important), then using the installer app, load the RB which will then set the path to the CCE. Clear any memory you have tied up. I normally run the disk cleanup utility in accessories. Reboot and give it another try. It doesn't take that long to cleanup and reload the app. You've already used much more time encoding where the movie files came out too small. After the new setup, there should be nothing wrong and the system will be at default settings.

    [bold]Note: It wouldn't hurt to use fresh downloads of the software to be used from http://www.dvd-rb.com . Also, some of those "trials" for CCE floating around the net can cause problems, hopefully you're using a version from a licensed source.[/bold]
     
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  7. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    blueside

    Damn I typed out virtually the same advice and was just getting ready to post it when brobear's response pops up. It's good advice take it, and make sure that you are not using a newer version of avisynth than 2.55.
     
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  8. jdobbs

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    You're reading into things a little too much... "Space for Video" is just what it says... there is more, though, you also have space for audio, subpictures, NAVPACKS, menus and IFO files.
     
  9. brobear

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    Which leads to the question of the day: [bold]What is the size of the output file for the DVD movie to be burned?[/bold] Not the entire output but the VIDEO_TS or ISO (if one has the PRO) that will be burned.
     
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  10. arniebear

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    Okay, I got RBPro and installed, it kind of went okay, just a few things I need to figure out. However, I used Shrink and ripped a movie uncompressed, and then opened RB. Proceeded to use QuEnc, because I was having trouble with the CCE settings. Went through the whole process about 2 hours and then went to burn and got a file that was too big. What did I do wrong, and how do I change this? The Navs file was 4.25, but the Video file came out 4.8
     
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  11. blueside

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    Well, good news :-D Tore everything apart, put CCE 2.5 SP (which I have had working before) and RC5.1 of RB and it all worked perfectly!

    Now all I need is a faster rig, I figure 3000+/1GB is good enough, but it took over 10 hours for a 7 pass CCE.
     
  12. jdobbs

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    Change the 7 passes down to 2... 3 if you are exceptionally anal. That should get you down around 2 hours. Contrary to the advice of some -- you get pretty much nothing in terms of quality out of the additional 5 passes.
     
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  13. brobear

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    Arniebear, try the HC Encoder or do the CCE. What are you talking about on settings for CCE? Let it run on default and it'll be fine.
     
  14. arniebear

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    @brobear

    Thanks for the answer, I got so frustrated I posted a thread here and at DVDRip. I am trying the HCenc now and it is about 40% done so hopefully this will work. As for the settings for CCE it just kept giving me an error message, I finally uninstalled the free RB and the Pro and then just reinstalled the Pro, and pointed the path to the ECLCCE.exe for the 2.5 ver I had. Also, I installed the key in the RB directory, but everytime I try to open the update zip file, I click on the exe and it states the key is not there and it cannot proceed. I am going to figure out this program if it kills me.
     
  15. arniebear

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    Okay, I used HC and 317 minutes later the finished product was not playable. I got sound but the picture was all distorted with horizontal lines going through it. What am I doing wrong with this? This is the same problem that happened with the free trial when I tried to use CCE, is it something in my hardware setup that won't let me use the program.
     
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  16. UncasMS

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    could you provide a screenshot of your *distorted* output?
     
  17. jdobbs

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    @arniebear

    Please give me the procedures you go through when you use it. DVD Rebuilder should work 100% immediately following installation. You have to be changing something.

    Also, please forward REBUILDER.INI, REBUILDER.INF, and REBUILDER.ECL to dvd-rb@dvd-rb.com. I'll take a look and see if I can find out what is happening in your configuration.
     
  18. arniebear

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    Actually, I do not change anything I just left it the way it installed except for the path to CCE that was asked for. The only thing I did was change the encoder to Qenc and then tried the HCenc. The Qenc did put out files that were playable on the comp, at least the fist vob was but the second would not play it kept freezing and the file output was too big to burn. Then used the HC and got the distorted pic the same as the first time I used it with the free version. I thought it was just that I needed the Pro so opted to get it. I don't know how to get a screenshot of the output, tried Snag-it but pic comes up black. Will try something else.
     
  19. jdobbs

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    What DVD are you trying to backup?

    Also, as I asked before, what are the procedures you go through? Please also, send the files...


     
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  20. arniebear

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    The first time I ripped the file with Shrink, movie only uncompressed it ended up 5.5g then just opened Rebuilder and picked source and did 1click and let it go.
     

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