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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Intel's clock speeds are higher out of the box but they aren't faster, because clock speed doesn't tell the whole story. A lower clock speed doesn't mean slower. Amd does 4 instructions per clock cycle, where Intel only does 2. Thats why AMD's have trouble running at the same ghz frequency than Intel's do, but the 4 instructions per clock makes up for that. Hence the PR rating with AMD. AMD has its memory controller on chip which means it makes better use of memory than Intel chips do. AMD compares its Processors to Intel because Intel has a strangle hold on the CPU market by using tactics that are much the same as Microsoft uses. Check out the different benchmarks done by sites such as Anandtech and you see that AMD is beating Intel in low and high-end chips. As far as heats concerned my CPU over clocked to 2.64 GHZ using the stock fan is running at 35 degrees celsius where a P4 not over clocked using a stock fan runs close to 50 degrees celsius.
     
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    As Brobear has stated the low end PCs are largely dominated by the slower Intel procs especially from Dell and Gateway.
    Companies are not concerned with the latest technology when buying bulking work stations.
    It use to be AMD that had the budget procs but they seem to be concentrating on performance nowdays. Even the low end AMDs are getting the rep as P4 killers.
     
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    Why doesn't Intel come up with a P5, or some similar logical new proc that is not P4 or notebook based?
     
  4. arniebear

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    I don't know I have decided to stay away from AMD I have not had good luck with them. This current notebook has an AMD 2400+ and all it does is overheat. The computer I had before my current Dell with a Pentium had an AMD with a gigabyte motherboard and was totally flaky and still is the grandkids use it for school.
     
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    I was told to stay away from AMD when I was building my pc because they ran hot. Well nothing can run hotter than my P4 prescott core 2.8ghz @3.2 ghz. It runs about 48 deg C at idle and can get as high as 65 deg C when encoding. Thats with stock fan. It hasn't shutdown or caused any problems yet but if I was to do it all over I would go with AMD.
     
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    Well I ordered the new Dell got the 3.4 processor, 2g of Ram, 256 Ati Video and the sound blaster zs audio with the 19 inch digital monitor. Hope this all works out cause my old one has been chugging along great. Will know in a week in half when it gets here. Did not order any drives don't want any of Dell's OEM. Since I am giving the old one to the wife and do not want to remove, how is the benq 1625 any problems, I want to booktype and the HP that is in the old one does this.
     
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    arniebear,

    I really like my benq DW1620. Don't know about the 1625 or 1640. You are going to put your plex in the new pc aren't you?
     
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    My Plex is USB I resisted an internal burner for a long time because when I got the comp about 2 and half years ago the TDK burner I got caused many problems and I ended up reformating. So I bought a USB NEC 1300a and it worked well still have it, then I bought two more USB drives before I finally bought an internal.
     
  9. HKT3020

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    Being that I tossed out the log awhile ago & this being a backup done sometime in the past 2 weeks, I just came to finally watching the backup. The movie, The Matrix. First Nero complained about one of the files which was listed as a 0kb vob file. I went ahead and burned the file despite the warning Nero mentioned because usually Nero is known to be picky. I chose movie & menus only on DVD-RB PROV1 RC5.1. I'm interested if any members or perhaps you yourself Jdobbs have come across a problem with this DVD? If not then I'm open to suggestions. ;-)
     
  10. brobear

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    Donald,
    You and Soph seem to disagree once again. Soph said AMD controls the low and high end and you said P4s control the low end, but some AMDs were P4 killers.
    Low end AMD as P4 killers? Somebody's been in the mescal again, maybe a Celeron killer. LOL Donald, not the low end but the mid range market is what I was referring to. For stock PCs in the 2-3GHz range, I'll stick with the P4s. I've had excellent success with them, and as I pointed out, they're currently the tried and true workhorse of the industry. I'm sure Arniebear will find his 3.4GHz unit to his liking. I wouldn't mind having one myself, but I still think of those chips in terms of a premium cost for the slight amount of improvement over a 3GHz processor. Since I'm not a gamer, I don't feel I need the extra speed and as bragging rights, I'm saving up for a new motorcycle. ;)
     
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    @HKT3020

    "The Matrix" is one of the discs I always keep on my hard drive for testing. I run it against pretty much every version. I've had no problem with it on any of the recent versions.

    I would highly suggest you create an ISO with DVD-RB and burn it with DVD Decrypter. Also, make sure you never use one-pass encoding with any DVD that has ILVU.
     
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  12. brobear

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    HKT
    I have the Matrix collection and didn't have a problem at all doing any of the discs, and I did extras and all.
     
  13. Sophocles

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    They are they're going to do what AMD's done, put the memory controller on chip.

    Now let's end the PC discussions here or move it to the hardware forum.
     
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  14. brobear

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    Good idea, so stop doing it. LOL
     
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    Sorry brobear but I neither agreed nor disagreed with anyone, AMD is beating Intel at everything. Only the Dothan chips by Intel are truly competitive. If superior processing was the only criteria for being out front then Intel would have to either get out of the way, or accept second place.

    On another point: I encoded "Hitch Hikers Guide To The Galaxy" last night, and it was one of the strangest experiences that I've had backing up a DVD.

    I began encoding at about 9 PM and when I returned at 10 PM there was a message stating that CCE couldn't encode a particular file. I clicked Okay and then it continued encoding for a while longer and then stopped again with the same message. I clicked okay again and it continued encoding. I got up at about 1 AM and there was the same message with the CCE message telling me that it failed to encode a file again. When I arose to get ready for work the next morning I was once again besieged by the message. I clicked Ok again and took a shower and when I returned it had completed the rebuild stage.

    After work I decided I'd burn it anyway to see what damage had been done with the CCE errors, and just to be safe I decided I'd play it until it burped. Now here's the strange part, usually when I receive an error message during encoding the result is usually worthless, but this movie played from beginning to end without even a skip.
     
  16. brobear

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    Seems there is a difference in opinions. I'm perfectly happy with my second rate P4 and haven't had the bad experiences like Arniebear has with the AMDs. They're both okay, I just have my personal preference. LOL
     
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    HKT3020,
    I didn't understand the post. Did you have any difficulties playing the movie.
    I didn't have any problems with The Matrix.
     
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    The only real point to the hardware discussion was AMD now makes it possible to cut your times substantially for a cheap price. You don't have to pay for a high dollar 3.4 P4.
     
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    [bold]@Sophocles[bold],

    I had a similar expeirence with that title..... However it played just fine... I used AnyDVD and decrpter the first time to rip it... I re-ripped it with AnyDVD and DVDFab. I then ran DVD-RB and only had two spots with the error from CCE... I then burned the image with Decrypter (just like the first time) and it plays perfect also!

    Also you are right on in your observations about AMD! I have a motel chain and two fabrication plants as private clients that I have switched to AMD systems in the last four years. They are tickled pink with 1). The monetary savings, 2). The performance, and 3). The reliability of the units!

    For my three and a half cents you can't go wrong!

     
  20. brobear

    brobear Guest

    I have family members who own different businesses and they use Intel. The most elaborate is a new setup in a med clinic that is all brand new Dell P4 workstations with a Dell Intel equipped server. Another family member is employed at a regional med facility. Guess what, Gateways equipped with Intel. Last I noticed the state and county educational facilities, guess what, Intel PCs.

    We can keep giving examples for both camps. As Sophocles so aptly put it,
    We all have our favorites and can find someone who has done a benchmark or research to support a particular choice. I'm just glad there is some competition so the consumer can reap some benefits. Hopefully both Intel and AMD continue to try to make a better "mouse trap". Who knows, maybe my next computer will have an AMD processor. LOL

    We all know a faster processor will improve encode speeds. So there we can all agree and get back on topic. Who has the best and fastest is open for debate in the hardware section. As jdobbs pointed out, most folks are using middle of the road PCs and that is what he does his work on so he can keep contact with the average consumer.

    Sophocles
    I'll have to remember that title the next time I order movies so I can check it out. Haven't had a good problem to play with in a while. ;)
     
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