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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. brobear

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    Agreed! But DVD Decrypter [bold]is[/bold] being used with their program. ;)

    It makes little difference either way. As I said earlier, I suspect it's mainly for the warnings and possibly to keep DVDD from causing interference. As jdobbs stated, change it if a problem arises or one can follow the Slysoft suggestion to preempt possible problems. At least everyone should be aware of the suggestion.
     
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  2. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    And that changes things how? LOL
     
  3. brobear

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    LOL The part I later added.
     
  4. brobear

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    Note I said possible problems, because I've had none, other than those pesky little warnings that had no meaning. "ugh too many pack header ..." "logging discontinued..."
     
  5. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    I know this is going to sound strange, but I have never had a warning while using DVD Decrypter. I've had some discs that it had a hard time reading but never a "pack header ..." "logging discontinued..." warning;)
     
  6. jdobbs

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    I got a warning at the end of a disc once... can't remember which DVD it was. The message said something along the lines of "...on an unencrypted disc is unusual." -- I pushed the "ok" button and everything was fine.
     
  7. brobear

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    jdobbs,
    Likewise, I just ignored the little warnings and everything came out okay. So far I haven't seen any difference in functionality.

    Sophocles
    It doesn't hurt to follow the suggestions from Slysoft, or not. LOL This little discussion isn't going anywhere. The users can follow the Slysoft suggestion or not. Their choice. We can note we haven't seen a difference in function, except those of us who've seen the little warnings. ;) Regret you missed those, but many of us have seen them and Slysoft even saw fit to comment on it.
     
  8. mark9977

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    Hi,

    Just wanted to follow up with everyone on the errors - the cce encoding one, that I was having.

    I deleted and then installed the newest version of DVDrebuilder, 1.08. I had been using 1.07 previously.

    Once I installed the new version and tried the disc that wouldn't encode all went well without it throwing an error. So that problem has cleared itself up.

    I am now trying the disc that was made 32MB too large to fit on a single layer DVD and will let you know in a day or so when it is done.

    If that works, then I was hoping for some help making the process a little quicker.

    Cheers, Mark
     
  9. brobear

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    Hopefully it doesn't take that long. I have a middle of the road system by today's standards and it does a 2 pass encode in about 80 to 120 minutes with RB/CCE. The Pro Coder and free HC Encoder are a bit slower. But nothing in the range of a day.
     
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    I am running about 14-18 hours to do 10 passes (which I think is a total of 10 or 11).

    Mark
     
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    why are you doing 9 passes? I seldom do over 2.
     
  12. mark9977

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    i don't know, maximum quality for archiving
     
  13. brobear

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    Well, it's just a personal opinion, but a lot of those passes are unnecessary. 3 passes are usually considered to be the start of overdoing it with RB and CCE. I've not seen an improvement with the 4th pass, so I no longer invest the time. So, I suspect you could easily cut your processing time by about 7/10 without noticing a loss in quality. Give it a try on a movie you've already done and see if you can notice the difference. Better yet, do a blind test and see if someone else sees the difference. Remember to have only the number of passes as a difference, 3 versus 10.
     
  14. mark9977

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    ok, I will try that. Any other ways of improving speed? Do you need my system specs?

    Mark
     
  15. brobear

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    Specs would be useful. That has a lot to do with how long it takes a system to encode a movie.
     
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    Sometimes I ask myself if I should have even put the option for 10 passes into DVD-RB. As I may have mentioned before, anything over 3 passes is like digital masturbation. It might make you feel good, but it really doesn't accomplish anything.

    It also hurts DVD-RB's reputation as being too slow. I see posts all the time where people say "Why would I want to spend 15 hours just to reencode a movie?" The only answer I can give is: "You wasted about 12 hours..."
     
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  17. brobear

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    Well put. That's about the best I've heard the situation explained. ;) Hadn't heard of the digital self gratification, that's a new one. LOL Don't worry too much about leaving the passes open on RB. Luckily there's enough of us around that know better and willing to inform the misguided that too many passes will cause them to get hair on the palms of their hands and doing it too often causes blindness. ;)
     
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    When you say 3 passes, do you mean that it is best to set CCE Passes to 4 passes? I know this sounds like a dumb question, but I remember reading somewhere that setting to 4 passes actually performs 3 true passes, with the first being a pass that simply creates the files. Or will a setting of 3 passes (2 true passes) give me the best quality? (I realize this can come down to personal opinion, but I trust jdobbs suggestions :) )
     
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    This is one of those goofy CCE terms that is nothing more than a source of confusion. When I say three passes, I mean 3 passes... the VAF pass and two more. Contrary to what you may have heard the VAF pass is not something special. It is a simple MPEG pass just like the others. In fact, you could do a CBR or an OPV pass as a replacement for the VAF pass and create an M2V as well as the VAF in pass one.

    You set DVD-RB to 3 passes and it will do it correctly. I refuse to play into Cinemacraft's marketing confusion.

     
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