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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. brobear

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    No MPEG2Dec3dg.dll file shows up in your setup. So there is a problem. I also noted that you have deviated from the normal setup. What was the situation that called for the command CCETargetSectors=2260000. It looks as though you may need to check the guide and go back through your setup. You can save the configuration files you have (for now just rename the file with .bak following the current name), but I would advise starting over with the default settings and follow the guide in every detail. Start with a clean setup and don't use your current configuration file.

    Have you ever had this setup in operation or is this your first attempt with RB/CCE?

    BTW, you said it about the 10 passes. 2 works great in Basic and anything more than 4 with the SP is usually a waste of time. Even with SP, 2 is sufficient for an excellent job of encoding.
     
  2. gererik

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    Hi!

    That's just it - I've done abou 20 successfull backups with those same exact settings before this one happened.
    I know about 10 passes - I just had to see for myself.
    And only the line "CCETargetSectors=2260000" was manually added by me - with this setting I am able to get only 20-30 Mb free space on a recorded DVD as opposed to default settings where I usually got 70-80 Mb free space. And again - it is just me - I hate to see space wasted on DVDs. :)))

    Anyway thanks - I'll try again from the scratch although I will be saving everything since as I said - I was doing successfull backups with these settings and software for several weeks now without a problem.

    Regards,

    Erik
     
  3. brobear

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    MPEG2Dec3dg.dll file was missing from the setup and that definitely needs to be in there. I was just wondering about the manual command installed for file sizing. Some people try to use it for over compression problems. My suggestion for renaming the old configuration file leaves it in place and if you have the need for reusing it, it is in place to do so (no harm, no foul).
     
  4. Sophocles

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    gererik

    brobear is right I don't see any indication of mpeg2dc3dg.dll being installed and I also don't see DVD-RB listed either. Either you've deleted these lines in your ini file or your setup has somehow been altered. My advice, redo your setup from scratch.
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  5. brobear

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    BTW, I forgot about multi angle movies, they cause problems of their own. Does POTR have any multi angle scenes in the recording? It gets a bit over my level of competence, but there are problems with the recording methods used with some movies. Thought I'd add that bit of trivia for after your getting the setup straightened out.
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  6. gererik

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    I assure you that only CCETargetSectors line was added by me. I don't dare to change anything else since I am not that familiar with the software.

    Sophocles - you say something else is missing? (apart from mpeg2dc3dg.dll)

    Regards,

    Erik
     
  7. brobear

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    gererik
    Sophocles is right. The default setting has MPEG2Dec3dg.dll in the Rebuilder folder and there is no trace of either in your configuration settings. So what happened to them?
     
  8. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Erik

    I know that you might have edited your post of your ini file to remove your full name but you should have a line something like the one below. If you've done a system restore recently then that could change your settings but there are missing bits of info from the info you posted.



    MPEG2DEC=C:\Documents and Settings\MyName\Desktop\DVD Rebuilder\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
     
  9. brobear

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    Erik
    Sophocles and I think alike on this one. As he is more knowledgable on the program, I'll leave you in his competent hands.
     
  10. gererik

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    I don't think so but I will check. The thing is that I haven't been able to see the movie yet and I plann to see it today or tomorrow. And at the moment I am at work (don't tell my boss how I am spending company time :)) so I am not able to check this straight away.

    So you will hear from me tomorrow when I will try the setup again.

    Thanks guys.

    Regards,

    Erik
     
  11. gererik

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    And many thanks to you brobear for your time and effort.

    Regards,

    Erik
     
  12. vurbal

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    I think I have the solution to this from a thread on Doom9 regarding the same error some people seem to get in a similar situation (http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=81567&highlight=cceencodinginit+failed). Apparently the solution some people have found is to change the settings in the ECL files so that non_linear=1 becomes non_linear=0. Since there's no setting in DVD-RB for this, you need to use a text editor to change it in Rebuilder.ECL. I recommend using find and replace so you don't have to find each instance manually.

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  13. brobear

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    Erik
    You're welcome. Irregardless of the rest; if something happened to the configuration setting MPEG2DEC=<Path>\... \... \DVD Rebuilder\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll; you need to get your settings back to what they should be, then if it doesn't work properly, you can go on to the other suggestions from my esteemed colleagues. Basics first... Once you get it running again, then type in the extras and reset the tweaks.
     
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    @brobear

    This is just a guess, but he might have the DLL in his AviSynth plugins directory, which would mean he doesn't need DVD-RB to set it for him. This is actually how I do it since I was using AviSynth long before DVD-RB was around. The reason I suggest doing it the other way in my guide is that it guarantees what version you're using, and you can't set that up without having the file there. I also don't use the idct=7 option in DVD-RB because I have it set automatically anytime that DLL is used.
     
  15. gererik

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    I actually have the mpeg2dc3dg.dll file in AviSynth plugin folder.

    Just I thought you should know.

    Regards,

    Erik
     
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    Vurbal

    Thanks for clearing that up.
     
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  18. brobear

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    Vurbal

    MPEG2DEC=C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll

    I didn't want to confuse Erik. The above is the exact path for MPEG2Dec3dg.dll in my setup; in AviSynth. So, I am aware it works there as well. I thought the MPEG2DEC command was still supposed to be present in the configuration file of RB. It appears in my configuration setting. It appears as though the path to MPEG2Dec3dg.dll was not set when setting up the RB.

    [bold]What happens with RB/CCE if the path to MPEG2Dec3dg.dll is left out? If the path isn't needed, why put that step in the setup portion of Rebuild?.[/bold]


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    If you put a DLL in the plugins directory, it will be automatically loaded every time AviSynth frameserves a script, whether it's used or not. Sometimes people have problems due to issues with the location of their plugins directory being specified incorrectly in the registry. This is normally caused by some program hijacking that setting during install (DVD2DVDR did that to me). When in doubt, it's always safer to use the LoadPlugin line, but not usually necessary.
     
  20. brobear

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    Thanks for the explanation Vurbal. Guess it might be handy to put a note in the guide. 'If you put the MPEG2Dec3dg.dll file in the Avisynth plugins folder, you don't need it in the Rebuilder folder and don't need to worry about setting the path in Rebuilder'. It is a constant learning experience around here. Thanks again for the info.
     

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