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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. 64026402

    64026402 Active member

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    In your previous post you said you didn't add the target sectors line.
    Did you just now add it or had you already put it in before?
    Did you double check to make sure it is there and not missing any digits.

    If you could post your .ini file it could be usefull.
    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Donald

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  2. p200002

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    DVD Decrypter: ripped everything from original DVD (legitimate retail R1);
    DVD shrink: encoded everything except DTS stream and French/Spanish subtitles (no compresion);
    DVD rebuilder+CCE SP: got 3.6GB after rebuild.


    Below is my rebuilder.ini

    [Options]
    OneClick=1
    NoWarn=0
    AudioDub=0
    idct7Opt=1
    CCE=1
    LoadPlugin=1
    Completed=2
    HalfExtras=1
    CCETargetSectors=2260000
    [CCEOptions]
    VBR_bias=25
    Quality_prec=16
    eclPasses=6
    [Paths]
    CCENEW=C:\Program Files\Cinema Craft Encoder SP v2.67.00.27\CCTSP.EXE
    MPEG2DEC=D:\dvdrb\MPEG2Dec3dg.dll
    Source=I:\THE_BOURNE_IDENTITY\VIDEO_TS\
    Working=G:\TBI_WORK\
    [Setup]
    sLanguages=...
    Languages=...
     
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  3. vurbal

    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    Have you tried opening the project with RB-Opt (like in the post I linked to before) to see what the final size should be?
     
  4. p200002

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    Yeah. RB-OPT showed me the estimate size is 4471MB. And I found a similar post on doom9 forum

    http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=80625

    There was an error message 0 apeared and disappeared very quickly after encode (step 2) is done. I don't know whether it is CCE's or dvdrb's. Since I can't post there, all I can say is something wrong with dvdrb + cce sp retail.
     
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    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    If you PM me with your email address I can send you a previous version of DVD-RB so you can see if that fixes the problem.
     
  6. p200002

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    This time I didn't use DVD shrink. Here is what I did,

    1. DVD Descrypter ripped DVD to hard disk, everything including all audio streams;
    2. set rebuilder vbr to 4 passes (1 vaf + 3 passes, right?)
    3. rebuilder prepared the files:

    [18:58:07] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
    - "Half-D1/Half Space for Extras" mode is enabled.
    ...
    - Reduction Level for DVD-5: 46.6%
    - Overall Bitrate : 2,584Kbs
    - Space for Video : 2,927,546KB
    - Movie improvement from extra reduction = 11.1%
    - HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 3,428/100/2,584 Kbs
    [19:05:21] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 7 minutes.

    4. rebuilder encoded the files. I could see that CCE only did one pass. No error though.

    My conclusion is, since I can't post to doom9, someone please help to post, rebuilder breaks something when working with CCE SP 2.67 retail version. It doesn't matter which rebuilder version I use.
     
  7. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    p200002

    I believe that Vurbal communicates quiet often with jdobbs, the author of DVD-RB. On occasion jdobbs also visits us here so I'm pretty sure your information will get there.
     
  8. p200002

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    I will do 2 more test to make sure my conclusion is right, Vurbal, wait until tomorrow.
     
  9. vurbal

    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    I think I had exactly the same problem as those guys on doom9 had.

    I set CCETargetSectors=225000 and vbr_passes to 4. RB-OPT reported estimated size 4451MB, after rebuild, size is 4.06GB.

    When I looked into the D2VAVS directory, there are AVS, ecl, D2V, FLG, m2v, vaf and INF files. Looks like there is only one pass, the one that creates vaf and m2v.

    This is killing me.
     
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  12. hypo

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    I installed DVD rebuilder and set everything up properly - it worked once but when I do another dvd that is over 4.7 GB, I get a runtime error

    Rebuilder error
    Runtime error 9
    Subscript out of range

    The rebuilder only lists one video title set under the source path box, however there is more than one video title set on the disc. Also, the rebuilder gives me a meesage before this saying that Warning: The input directory is already small enough to fit on a DVD-5, No compression is necessary. Continue anyway? Whant am I doing wrong; how can i avoid these warning/messages and have the Rebuilder recognize that compression needs to be done.

    Thanks

    H

    P.S. I'm using rebuilder v 0.56, EDcce.exe v.1.81 CCE 2.67.00.27 SP Trial
     
  13. vurbal

    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    I've never seen DVD-RB tell me that a disc was small enough for a blank already unless it actually was, so I'm confused about that. However, if it's not seeing all the titles that might explain it. I'd say you should post this on the bug report thread on Doom9, but their forums database is down for now so that's not an option.

    I'd advise checking to see if it could be backed up to a DVD-R without re-encoding if you didn't have the titles that aren't showing up. You could do this pretty easily by opening the original files in DVD Shrink and then either manually calculating the difference between the whole disc and the disc minus the titles DVD-RB doesn't seem to see or by doing a re-author and adding everything but those titles to the disc. In either case you'd need to make sure the disc was set to No Compression in Shrink to make sure you get accurate numbers.
     
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    One time I had Rebuilder show the correct titles that added up to over 4.7 gigs and gave the warning that the files were already smaller than the taget size.

    I didn't fully figure it out but I had been doing a lot of editing. I started from scratch and everything was fine.

    It does sound like the source file path may need to be reset. After you check to see if the ripped files are all there then recheck where the source files are routed.
     
  15. jdobbs

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    Actually it would be more accurate to say CCE SP 2.67 breaks something when working with DVD-RB. It appears they may have changed the meaning of one-or-more of their .ECL parameters and a single CBR pass is occuring instead of VBR multipass. Sigh... they seem to do that a lot. I'm working it.
     
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    If the title set isn't listed, it is because it is too small to get any reasonable benefit from additional compression (< 50MB). Another possibility is that the entire set may not have been included when it was ripped to HD.
     
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    Thx, jdobbs.
     
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    @ hypo...

    Would you confirm whether or not the entire titleset was included when you ripped to your hard drive? Thanks.

     
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  19. addictarm

    addictarm Guest

    Hey has anyone seen any wierd artifacting like this:
    [​IMG]

    I'm trying to back up seven samurai using
    dvd-rebuilder v0.56 w/ CCE SP 2.67.00.27

    The DVD backed up wonderfully (good quality and size),
    but at the very beginning of chapter 4 I get
    the problem above. The original has nothing weird going
    on there, and neither does the backup I took with
    dvdshrink.

    Any ideas? I tried to back it up twice thinking it might be some fluke, but I recieved the same result.


     
  20. vurbal

    vurbal Administrator Staff Member

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    There was somebody else who had the same problem last week or the week before. I think they got it solved but I can't remember what they did. I looked for the thread but I can't find it right now. If I find it I'll point you there.
     

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