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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

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  1. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Some edits with Remake can be a headache with RB/CCE.
     
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    Hi,
    I have been reading alot of the responses here in the thrads and its been very educational, i have been having a problem with the audio stream, when i have completed the encoding and the files are ready to be burnt i test the movie and it has no sound at all.
    When the begining of the DVD starts it has sound but after the menu is selected and the movie begins there is no sound at all!
    I am using DVDdecrypter to RIP the DVD, DVDRB with CCE SP 2.67, te Video seems to be fine just no sound, can anyone help me?? has anyone come acroos this previously??
     
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    Sophocles Senior member

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    striker27
    Nice opening thesis, but we're going to need a lot more than that.

    It sounds like you may have a setup problem. Did you use Vurbal's guide here at AD?

    Give us the contents (take care to remove personal info) of your INI file. The versions of the compatible RB software you're using.

    Post it here.
     
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    Sometimes you get a disc in which the default stream is not the one you think it is... and it gets removed -- as a result, when it starts the sound is missing. The Passion of Christ is a good example. You have to decide to keep "Latin" as a language.
     
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    DVDrebuilder probably removed the soundtrack you needed. Make sure the language of your choice is unchecked in options to remove. Also make sure it is present on the main screen under source. I have lost a few soundtracks myself.
     
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    [bold]DVDrebuilder probably removed the soundtrack you needed.[/bold]

    [bold]sometimes you get a disc in which the default stream is not the one you think it is... and it gets removed -- as a result, when it starts the sound is missing.[/bold]

    Sometimes the voice tracts share the same space as the music tracts and when you remove one language you remove them all and the music.

    It's true
     
    Sophocles, Sep 18, 2004
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    I've also seen movies that weren't originally released with surround sound, and were then released on DVD with 2 channel AC3 as the default stream with a 5.1 channel stream also available. If you have a movie like that you need to remap the streams if you don't want the 2 channel sound.
     
    vurbal, Sep 18, 2004
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    vurbal ... how does one go about remapping the streams?

     
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    The easy way is to remove the audio with DVD Shrink. If you go into Preferences and look on the Ouptut Files tab you'll see an option for Logical Remapping of Enabled Streams. Having this checked allows you to remove the default stream, and have the next one in the list that's being kept automatically set as the default.
     
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    The term "remapping" sounded a little complicated. It's nice to know all I need to do is check a box. Right now I don't have 5.1 capabilities, but my understanding was that if I encoded both 2 channel and 5.1, I could use either one in the future. I'm thinking now that this isn't true. If this question is too far off topic, we could take it to another place...
     
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    [bold]Sophocles:[/bold]
    I am using the retail version of CCE. This is what I tried in my experiment to get this setup working. I figured that since I have always been able to burn everything out of DVD Shrink I would sort of reprocess the movie with it.
    I uninstalled Avisynth 2.5.5 and installed 2.5.4. Then I extracted the Mpeg2Dec3dg.dll file from the decode100fix.zip file into the plugin folder of Avisynth. Next I retried Man on Fire by taking the original DVD Decrypted rip and reauthoring it with DVD Shrink so that it was just the movie title. (Note I selected no compression in DVD Shrink.) So I used the DVD Shrink file as my source file and prepared, encoded, and tried to rebuild. It made it further then before but it stopped with the same annoying buffer overflow error #0004. I watched the end result and it makes it to chapter eight but it seems to skip some chappters, but I am not sure. But what does come out looks just as good as the original to me. Now I just have to geet this thing working! It is hard to troubleshoot something that takes hours to get to the point of troubleshooting.

    [bold]64026402:[/bold]
    I tried to find version 0.57 but it seems that the only versions available for download is version 0.58 and 0.59. Do know where I can get version 0.57. I would definitely like to try it.

    Does anyone else have any suggestions/remedies that they have tried and have worked? THank everyone for the help.
     
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    jimmy3220...

    I've had my share of experience with the buffer overflow error. It's an illusive problem, and it is also frustrating in that troubleshooting takes so long...as you pointed out.

    I would suggest that you use RB .59 and AviSynth 2.5.4 and use a file straight out of Decrypter...without edits. The next step depends on the results. If it goes through, then you know you have a problem with the movie and editing it. If not, then your problem is more system oriented, and there are a few things we can try there.
     
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    @jimmy3220:
    DVD-RB 0.6 has just been released, and I believe one of the fixes may help out with your problem. Download that and see if it helps.
     
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    @jimmy3220

    If you are able to use RB .6, I would still advise using a non-edited movie straight out of Decrypter in order to reduce the number of variables you may be dealing with.
     
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    BTW Doc, 5.1 channel AC3 streams are automatically converted to 2 channel when appropriate. There are a couple of reasons why the 2 channel streams are included. First, sometimes they don't want to depend on the quality of the conversion done from the 5.1 channel, so they make a true 2 channel mix. Other than that, sometimes it's just to keep the original (when the movie was only released with 2 channel sound) or, I suspect, just because they have the space to fill and it looks better to have the extra audio stream, even if it doesn't really mean anything.
     
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    Somethimes two channel tracts are included because the 5:1 surround channel will be out of phase when played through a two channel system. It's still playable but the sound is not balanced and the stereo image is off.
    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth."[/small]
     
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    Jimmy,
    I just did Man on fire with .59 and had no problems.
    I will figure on a setup or version difference somewhere else. I did notice that the machine I used still had CCE basic 2.67.01.19 on it. My other machines have been using 2.69 cce with no problems.
     
    64026402, Sep 19, 2004
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    Donald ,

    I also backed up Man On Fire. However, I did use CCE Basic 2.69 ~ DVDRB 0.59B. No problems on this end.
     
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    I did Man on Fire, NTSC, yesterday. No problems.

    Ripped to ISO with DVD Decrypter v3.5.0.0
    Mounted using Daemon Tools
    DVD-RB v0.60
    AVISYNTH 2.5.4
    MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL v110
    CCE SP V2.50
    Windows 2000, SP4
    One Click Mode
    2 Passes, Bias 25, Quality Prec 16

     
    jdobbs, Sep 19, 2004
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    I appreciate all the help you all have been giving me. Today I downloaded DVD-RB v0.60 and then set it up via. the guide. Also in the setup I left it to where all the audio fields would be retainded.I am using Avisynth 2.5.4 with MPEG2DEC3DG.DLL v1.0.1.0 in the plugin folder, DVD Decrypter v3.2.3.0, CCE Basic v2.69.01.10 (retail). This time I decided I would try a different movie.
    I ripped The Ring using the ISO mode. I left it totally unedited. Then usung the Daemon Tools I mount the iso image. So I used the VIDEO_TS folder as my source. I prepared it, encoded it and then tried to rebuild it. (I have to note that using a mounted iso is much quicker: it took a little over two hours for me to do the encoding which is a huge improvement in time as compared to close to four hours with files.)
    Now interestingly I get a buffer overflow error #0003. Hmm. At this point, I am thinking that there must be something wrong with my system or something else? Does anyone have any ideas. Also I would like to note that recently (one month ago) I added 512 MB of RDRAM with a speed of PC800-40 to my original 128 MB of RDRAM w/ a speed of PC800-45. Both are made by Samsung and both are non-ecc. The only difference really is one is 40 nanoseconds and the other is 45 nanoseconds.
     
    jimmy3220, Sep 19, 2004
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