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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. block134

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    @Sophocles and Gnomex

    I tried a backup of a movie with no changes to it what so ever (full disc backup) and it seems that the new disc works fine. I havent watched the whole movie yet so there could still be problems. When I get home from work I will watch the movie and try a few others tonight that I had problems with. If remaker is the problem is there any advice to make it work better or are there any programs that will do the same thing and work better with rb. Thanks for all the help you all have given me so far.
     
  2. Doc409

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    block134...

    You should be able to do minor editing in Remake without a problem...which means "Hide Blocks" of previews and warnings, etc. I once had a similar problem because I went without defragging my hard drive for too long. I'd suggest you check your HDD, and give it another try. AT least now you know that you can make a good backup without changes.


     
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  3. vurbal

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    block134

    Read Vurbals guide and subscribe to his remake thread. DVD's are complicated and for us to mess with them we need to know their structure.
     
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    Vurbal we posted in the above at exactly the same time with only slightly different resolutions.
     
  6. pebkac

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    Hey all,

    I've been following Vurbals guide (very informative!)
    But I'm running into a hitch while trying to re-encode the new starwars trilogy.

    Rebuild encodes fully (error free) and the final product is an appropriate size of 4.3GB.

    Now, when I dump the files into powerdvd, the playback is jumpy, sometimes still jittery images, or perfectly fine at other parts but suffering a slight audio desync (noticable more at certain parts than others).

    Has anyone else experienced this and or have a suggestion to correct the output?

    Here's my configuration:
    CCE SP 2.50 Trial (and also tried CCE SP 2.67 Trial)
    DVD Rebuild V.56 (and V.62)
    The Current Version of eclcce (1.81 /w support for CCE SP 2.67)
    AVISynth V2.5

    As far as settings, identical to Vurbals guide (with uninstall, reintall, and triple check of settings numerous times). I've encoded about 6 times now with no success.

    Thanks in advance for any help possible, or a link if this has been identified previously (couldn't find anything).
     
  7. brobear

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    You run into 2 situations here. First of all the Star Wars movies are multi angle. RB is not set up to handle multi angle movies yet. We're all anxiously awaiting that. Second is there are some issues with the CCE trial programs. Have you recorded successfully with this setup before with other movies. And why use a program (the SP trial) that leaves a watermark on the video?

    I forgot to mention, ReMake is a good program used to strip the multiple angles so RB can function properly. DVD Decrypter can strip the angles, but it doesn't correct the file structure. This has been covered previously.
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  8. pebkac

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    I'm new to DVD Rebuilder (and a fan already with the quality of the final output, unfortunately just a few hiccups)

    I used ifoEdit to strip the 2 other angles (maintaining angle 1) which I'm starting to think is the issue in itself.

    Right now I'm re-ripping the dvd through decrypter with the maintain angle 1 option (I've found in the past that ifoedit can cause issues after editing original ifo files).

    As far as the watermark, I'll be switching to basic shortly, $50 is well worth the quality (this is more of a test drive, before I buy).

    Is there a recommended process to strip multi-angles out of a dvd?

    Thankyou for the speedy response!
     
  9. brobear

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    I put in the note which you may not have noticed. DVD Remake is a good program for working with the multiangle movies. Some special work has been done with that program to make it more compatible with RB.

    If you are certain you want to go with the RB setup, then I suggest you go ahead and purchase the CCE Basic. (I haven't run across many that don't think the results are spectacular.) Having Basic Retail eliminates some of the inherent problems associated with the trials. Sound problems were among the associated problems with the trials.

    It appears you could be having 2 problems at once. A problem with the sound caused by the trial and a multi angle problem. The surest bet is to go ahead and get the Basic Retail and then if you have problems go from there.
     
  10. pebkac

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    Sounds like a plan.
    I'll switch up to basic this week, and look into remake (sorry, I feel like a clutz missing your point on DVDremake)

    I have a feeling that switching to basic will be the best solution by the amount of posting issues usually being associated with SP Trial.

    Thanks again brobear!
     
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    pebkac...

    I would say that less than 5% of the movies have angles, however, the most effective way to remove these and the extras like warnings and previews is also DVD Remake or Remake Pro from dimadsoft.com. It is a very nice complement to RB-CCE. I also believe that once you upgrade to the retail Basic, your problems will cease.

     
  12. spamlover

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    Hi guys. OK, you all have helped me to get DVD-RB/CCE Basic to work. I just burned Pirates of the Caribbean. The video is [bold] Stunning [/bold], but in several parts, the audio cuts out very briefly. Video is affected in no way by the audio. I processed the movie thru DVD Decrypter and DVD Shrink first. I finally burned it using CloneDVD 2 (which produces impressive results in my experience). Some questions for you guys: [bold]1. [/bold] What am I doing wrong? [bold] 2. [/bold] Am I messing things up by processing the movie thru both Decrypter and Shrink? [bold] 3. [/bold] Is there a version of DVD-RB (some say version .56 is good) that is less prone to audio dropout? Thank you!
     
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    By the way, how do y'all put spaces between sentences and make certain lines shorter than others?
     
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    Spamlover ... have you tried to run a movie through Decrypter with no mods, and process it through RB-CCE yet? Please do that with a regular length movie. Also, some movies have angles, and I don't remimber if Pirates does or not. Having angles could also be a source of problems.

    Yes, you can run into problems mixing Decrypter and Shrink, and then running the files through RB-CCE. I'm surprised it didn't kick the movie out with a buffer overflow error or something. Anyway, since Shrink can rip a movie, there is no need to use Decrypter with it. So, use one or the other, or expect problems. Also, I would suggest using the latest version of Rebuilder, which I believe is now .62 (beta).

    As far as your question about short sentences, and lines between them...if I am understanding the question...the Return/Enter key will do both. Also, if you want to edit a post, use the notepad icon next to the "report an offensive post" link.
     
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  15. brobear

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    The same way you would on a typewriter or in word processing; <Enter>
     
  16. spamlover

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    Hey Doc... no I haven't but I'm gonna do that with "Pirates" tonite. How many gigs or how long is a regular length movie to you?

    How can I know if Pirates has multiple angles? Is there a program which could tell me? I don't think DVD Shrink or Decrypter tells me that.

    Also, if Pirates has multiple angles, wouldn't DVD-RB give me some kind of error message? OR would it just process the movie with audio dropouts resulting?

    Thanks you guys!
     
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    OMG! I'm such a moron...thanks Brobear! Thought I had to enter some kind of code...again...making life harder than it has to be...DOH!
     
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    What I had in mind with a regular length movie was actually more of a regular run-of-the-mill production without special effects, i.e., angles. Most of the newer movies are around 7 GB wihtout editing...and I would suggest a movie a couple of years old to start with because we have found problems with newer releases that are unrelated to this software. My concern at this point is that you will gravitate to them, and so I am suggesting an older movie. The bottom line here is that you need to establish that your software is set up correctly for everyone concerned here. I really appreciate your enthusiasm about wanting to do all sorts of adjustments and variations with the software, but it is pretty simple. For the more challenging task, there is also software for that, but you need to settle down and get through the intitial learning curve first. I know that if you will do this you will soon be an expert on this software, and then you can pitch in and help others.

    Add on: If a movie goes into RB with angles, it will give a warning. If you proceed, it will begin processing, but the final product won't work.

    Decrypter has a function that deals with angles, but not effectively for RB-CCE. There is some info on it a few posts above.
     
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    Thanks for your quick response Doc. You have been a great help to me already!

    True, it's quite simple, yet not. I'm understanding in leaps and bounds in just one week. The answers y'all provide to my questions gets me closer to "getting it."

    BTW... do you or anybody out there [bold] know what software program can tell me if a movie has multiple angles? [/bold] I want to take your suggestion and back up a simple movie first!
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    I believe all of the contributors on this thread use either DVD Remake or DVD Remake Pro from dimadsoft.com. It identifies angles quickly. It is also used for editing out things like warnings and previews, etc., so that less compression is required of the feature portion. Remake Pro has additional capabilities.

     

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