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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

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  1. bigorange

    bigorange Active member

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    Bingo! Exactly what I was driving at! ;>)
     
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    The number of passes is ignored if you are using CCE Basic.
     
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    Sophocles Senior member

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    So much for that theory but then we still haven't answered how he was able to do an encode in 83 minutes. Perhaps he's using RBfarm.

    jdobbs I guess its safe to say I didn't get that info from you.
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    Wait. If I set DVD-RB to 2 passes using CCE Basic, won't I get 2 passes?

    No, I didn't use any filters...just set DVD-RB to 4 passes, which I now know doesn't do 4 passes. So, it just did one pass?

    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Time flies like an arrow...fruit flies like a banana![/small]
     
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  5. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    spamlover

    I think we're all tired and just ruminating over how your encode took only 83 minutes that's too fast for anything with a single processor using a single machine. RBfarm isn't a filter it's an application that allows you to link multiple PCs together for shared encoding and time savings. If jdobbs says it does two passes then it does two passes,RB is his creation.
     
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  6. jdobbs

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    If you use DVD-RB with CCE-Basic you will get 2 passes no matter what you set. The only exception is still frames, which are done with CBR.

    If you have a fast computer and a short movie 80 mins is possible. I usually get 2.6 - 2.7 rates... that means a 90 minute movie would take about 69 minutes to encode (2 passes) plus 5 minutes for phase 1, 15 for phase 3 -- brings me to 89 minutes...

     
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    Thanks guys! Yeah, I have no idea how my computer is completing the process so fast. I have a Pentium 3.2 with 1 Gig of Ram... maybe that helps. "The Mission" is over 2 hours long. The DVD burn of it looks amazing.

    Question: Using DVD-RB and CCE Basic, will altering the Qual Prec. and VBR Bias in RB make any difference in the outcome?

    Thanks!
    _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Time flies like an arrow...fruit flies like a banana![/small]
     
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    83 minutes sounds possible for a 2 hr movie for just the encode part. If it was LOTR then it would likely go to 2.5-3.0 hrs.

    Quality_prec is adjustable on basic and 20 seems to be better for me on some movies. I use 20 for default now.




     
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    As far as the future of this thread and moving on I figure things will get busier when DVDrebuilder goes mainstream out of beta with multiangles and an install package.

    Rebuilder is already getting a lot of use as is.
     
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    I'd say 83 minutes isn't out of line for that CPU. for a 2 hour movie that would be a peak encoding speed of a little more than 3x realtime, which seems about in line with what others have reported getting with the same hardware. I'd expect somewhere in the neighborhood of 40 minutes per hour of movie for both passes.
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    I have been working with the Star Wars Trilogy because of the angles. Removing the angles causes a problem that is unrelated to DVDrebuilder.

    Only the second and third cells have angles. Easily stripped but the cells freeze on a stand alone player but not on marks tray player. This happens with DVDshrink or rebuilder.

    If you don't strip the angles, shrink works OK.
    DVDremake has just released 2.5.0 with a fix for angle stripping but it didn't help.

    The rest of the movie plays fine.
     
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    Question: When using DVD-Shrink to do pre-processing before using DVD-RB/CCE Basic, is it suggested to use the "deep analysis" feature of Shrink?
     
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    No,
    Deep analisys isn't used unless you are compressing.
     
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    [DELETED] I did it again.
     
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    Hey all,

    I got around to buying CCE Basic the other day but now I have a new problem (Was using CCE SP previously)...
    My output encoded video is Purple/Pink.

    I'm using CCE Basic 2.69
    AVISynth 2.54 (and tried 2.55)
    MPEG2Dec3dg.dll 1.0.1.0
    DVDRebuild 0.63

    Going through the forums, it looks like someone else ran into this problem but no mention of a solution.
    I'm running a clean install of XP (after just formatting)
    and I'm not running any extra codecs on my system (ie. Divx, Xvid, Angel Potion)

    Me thinks a greater force is at work here, wanting me to fail miserably with dvd rebuild! hah ;)

    Any input would be greatly appreciated.
     
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    pebkac...I believe this has something to do with AviSynth. Open up the D2VAVS file and play an AVI file with something like Windows Media Player. You should get some kind of message. Please post.
     
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    89 minutes, sigh, I can only dream of 89 minutes! My best time in RB/CCE is 3 hours, that is the entire process, tho normally I'm looking at 3 1/2 to 4 hours.(this includes ripping with decrypter, RB/CCE and burn)

    I wouldn't have thought there would be that much difference between 3.2 and 2.8, but obviously there is. sigh. :>(
     
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    I wouldn't have thunk it either. But it has me looking at a new CPU and mobo already. I'm wondering if hyperthreading has anything to do with it?
     
    Doc409, Oct 4, 2004
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    mmmm, don't know, but it definitely ain't fair. I just bought this in January, and in 9 months time I'm already two P4's down. lol
     
    bigorange, Oct 4, 2004
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    I'm using DVD-RB 0.59 Beta with CCE SP 2.67.00.27.
    Today I tried encoding Cold Mountain after having it DVDRemake'd. Before I encoded it with DVD-RB, it all worked fine, but after the encoding, the menu wouldn't work properly. I couldn't select anything on the menu! I dunno why this is happening. What should I do?
     
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