Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Tokey

Trust me with this one. When you see the quality your going to get with RB/CCE and still be able to keep all the extras you're going to jump with joy. I've done many 7.5 gig movies with it and I can't tell the difference between the backup and the originals. Remember DVD2one is a transcoder and RB/CCE is an encoder.
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Tokey, listen to sophocles, I have used 53% compression(that's right, 53%!!!) in RB/CCE and couldn't tell the difference between the copy and the original at 300% magnification on a 57" screen!!!!

It's kinda like having dual layer without the DL burner or DL media, LOL.

 

BigO
You were right on 4.38 GB pushing the envelope. A PC will round off, so if it was above 4.375 it would naturally read the 4.38. Since a 4.7 GB is in reality a 4.377 GB, you can see how close even 4.375 GB is to the edges of a DVD disc. My latest version of RB is recording to 4.30GB and I'm happy with that. You can just see the unrecorded ring on the outer edge of the DVD. A little larger might have been nicer, but I won't complain. I'll take a look at the next project to see how that turns out.

 

Thanx brobear, I knew I was, and I pointed it out, but maybe your explanation will be listened to since it was much better than mine. LOL

 

His file coming in at 4.38 was the clue that he was ripping improperly. I've experimented with about every method possible to try and get a movie only backup. On one occassion that included ripping movie only file mode with Decrypter.

 

Sophocles...when I saw your post (above) saying that a movie only option would be nice for RB, I was wondering why you weren't using the Decrypter movie only rip? Now I know. Since I had never tried it, I couldn't recommend it. And now I know not to waste my time. Thanks. I'm also thinking this would be a good subject for the FAQ's.

 

Doc

I agree put it in the facts.

Ive tried just about everything to get a movie only back up and finally gave up. I'm happy with the new updates that jdobbs has implemented and I figure it'll only get better from here.

 

I've been able to get a movie only burn with some of the older movies using Remake Pro. The newer ones require a little more work...and some good luck that they will still play OK. I've had some burns hang in the external player, but not in the computer. (When I go back to a straight Decrypter file, it works OK.)

 

Doc409

You would have to have had some of the extras because otherwise a chain would have been broken somewhere in the movie. I use remake sparingly because experience has taught me that the more I edit out, the more likely it is that I will cause a serious error. I was only able to achieve a movie only backup using CCE with DVD2DVD-R.

 

I would agree, the more that gets edited out, the more likely something won't work. The older movies tended not to have all the extras the new ones do. What they did have had stand-alone blocks that could be edited easily. The newer DVD's are obviously getting more complicated. I am finding that there is little quality difference, if any, in leaving the trailers (previews) in vs. editing them out. Sometmes these can be 2 to 3 GB's.

Because of the time invested, and the subsequent risk factor that something will not work, I am at the point of thinking I might be better off just sending the complete Decrypter file through RB-CCE? I see very little difference. It is also difficult to determine if the "error" is with Remake or RB?

It would be interesting to hear other's backup strategies at this point.

 

How true!

I've dedicated most of my efforts with remake on removing trailers and it hasn't always been rewarding.

 

It's come to the point the only thing i take out is trailers and unwanted audio tracks. The more you mess with menu structure the more room for error. RB/CCE does such a good job that unless there are a few, I go ahead and leave them in now. Besides extras are becoming more and more entertaining.

I still use remake for other apps(IC 8 in particular) and I 'm getting ready to try it on a flipper disc combining the two sides and ending up with one menu using mackem x's guide. Wish me luck with that, talk about messing with menu structure!

Alas, Poor DvdReMake, I knew him well, LOL ;>)
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I still use it, but now that jdobbs is on the edge of licking the multi angle problem it seems less important. Some of the new updates still have me loading and playing with it but it's mostly for experimentation. Like you said if there's no serious picture loss by keeping the extras then why not keep them.

 

That's the thing I'm finding...that there is less picture quality loss than I ever imagined. It's like I was suffering from a "transcoder hangover" where I still took every opportunity to reduce extras.

 

LOL, good one Doc and right on.

 

big0
When I said decoders, I meant MPEG2Dec3dg.dll vs DGDecode.dll

 

i am having a buffer overflow problem...error #0003 during rebuild at around 12.9% of rebuild. i can bypass this is error using special error processing

but then at around 98% of rebuild after using this special error processing i get subscript error 9..


does anyone know what i should do???

 

Try an unedited Decrypter file and the latest versions of Rebuilder and Basic CCE.

 

if anyone knows what to do please help


here is my setup for rebuilder

CCEBasic = C:\Program Files\Custom Technology\Cinema Craft Encoder Basic\cct2.exe

MPEG2DEC = C:\Program Files\AviSynth 2.5\plugins\DGDecode.dll

 

ZeroSktr

You can tell us which applications you use and check your setup again. Just describing a problem without giving information doesn't give us much to work with.