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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. HKT3020

    HKT3020 Regular member

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    @ jdobbs
    I uninstalled avisynth and wiped any registry entries made by the program, reinstalled avisynth and the 3 pass encode worked. I'll try more passes while I'm in class tomorrow and see if it goes just as well. Also just a rough estimate, by how much percent is the new DGDecode.dll faster compared to the older version?
    Curious.
     
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  2. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    HKT3020

    Sorry it took so long getting back to you but then with jdobbs you're in good hands. I don't think that there's an accurate measure of speed gains made by the updated DGDecode.dll, and understandably so. Systems are not matched evenly for speed to begin with which would result in a time variation with or without DGDecode.dll.

    I've heard claims that vary from 20 minutes to nearly 40 minutes saved but I couldn't tell you if they're true or not. I mostly do batch encodes and I don't really have a need to observe time which passes while I sleep.

    Good luck to you.
     
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  3. bigorange

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    HKT3020,

    by how much percent is the new DGDecode.dll faster compared to the older version?
    Curious.


    Don't know about percentage but it's about 30 minutes quicker on my PC, which is quite a bit when you're talking about 3 1/2 to 4 hour times from start to finish :>)

     
  4. davka

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    Hi Pop_Smith
    Thanks for reply.
    But I did go through all 3 phases.
    (Prepare phase doesn't create VIDEO_TS folder right?)

    I just copy-pasted first phase log because I thought 1st phase is more informative.
    [bold]
    Space for Video : 4,087,996KB
    [/bold]

    Does it mean my VIDEO_TS folder size will be 4,087,996KB + Audio size (maybe around 400,000KB) = 4.7GB?
    Seems like correct to me. But created VIDEO_TS folder is more than 5GB.

    I'm looking forward to any solution to this.
    Thanks






    have you looked at my .ini file configuration?
    is it right?



     
  5. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    davka

    It seems you've somehow got overlooked. The information we gave to HKT3020, also applies to you. I'm betting there's an error in your setup.

    I've noticed that you have eclcce in the same folder as CCE SP trial. Try placing it in the same folder as DVD RB. Read the instructions from Vurbal's guide below.



    http://www.afterdawn.com/guides/archive/dvd_rebuilder_tutorial.cfm


    Instructions from Doom9


    If you use CCE SP 2.50, or CCE SP 2.66/2.67 demo, you'll need EclCCE. Unpack EclCCE anywhere you like, then start it. All you get to see is a file open dialogue. Select your CCE SP demo executable and press OK. This will launch CCE SP, and this concludes the CCE SP installation.
     
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  6. HKT3020

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    @ davka

    I'll take a shot at this. This worked for me so it might work for you as well, download and install the latest DVDRB program along with the latest version of AviSynth and use the latest decoder. It should work without any hiccups once it's setup correctly.

    Additional post, setup everything as it should be. Latest DVDRB, AviSynth, decoder but same error message still appears. I have no idea what gives.

    [​IMG]
     
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  7. davka

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    Hi
    Thanks for advices, but still no luck. (size is bigger than 4.7GB)

    Yeas, The most of my tools are latest public releases.

    [bold]
    DVD-RB 0.66a
    AviSynth 1.5
    DGDecode.dll
    CCE SP 2.50 Trial
    eclCCE 1.81 for CCE SP 2.66/2.67 trial
    is there eclCCE for CCE SP 2.50 Trial?
    [/bold]

    DVD-RB Setup menu changes in every release, so instructions doesn't match anymore.
    I assumed [bold]CCE SP 2.67++[/bold] and [bold]CCE SP (New)[/bold] becomes CCE SP in version 0.66a.

    - I installed eclCCE in the same folder as DVD-RB
    - eclCCE points to CCE SP 2.50 Trial
    - in the setup menu, [bold]Path to CCE SP[/bold] points to eclCCE.exe, [bold]Path to Decoder[/bold] points to DGDecode.dll
    - [bold]Dynamically assign Cell Bitrates[/bold] is checked
    - In CCE Option, [bold]CCE SP[/bold] is checked
    - Also ConvertToYUY2 and MPEG2Source are checked.

    I used RB-Opt 0.15 to check the size.
    It says DVD Estimated size 4424mb.

    But created VIDEP_TS folder size is over 5.2GB

    Is it maybe because of eclCCE version?
    Does anyone know eclCCE for CCE-SP 2.50 trial?
    Thank you








     
  8. vurbal

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    Newer versions of ECLCCE should work fine with 2.50, but the option you should be selecting in CCE Options is CCE SP (v2.50).
     
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    I have tried using DVD2SVCD to create a DVD from an avi encoded with OpenDivx v4 (and audio AC3 DVM). I have no trouble when using my TMPGEnc encoder (which I bought) except the audio isn't supported, but I downloaded the trial version of CCE and have a couple of problems I can't explain:

    1. The aspect ratio of the output is changed from the original. TMPGEnc makes the output aspect ratio identical to what it looks like when I use MediaPlayer to replay the avi file, but using the CCE trial, there are wide borders at the edges, and the output seems horizontally "squished". I looked in the Dvd2svcd options, and tried disabling borders, but that didn't change anything. The input is 576*432, the output should be 720x480. My guess is that CCE doesn't do the pixel math very good. Or very well.

    2. CCE output causes a color change from the MediaPlayer and TMPGEnc versions. It seems the blue color is missing, kind-of.

    Are these "features", like the CCE logo, of the trial version, or is something else going on, and I have to use CCE from its control panel independently of Dvd2svcd?

    Thanks for inputs!

    Jim
     
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    Sophocles Senior member

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    jimbusse

    This thread was started to help discover difficulties that might occur when using DVD Rebuilder and CCE. Your question is off topic but since you're here, why don't you try CCE with DVD Rebuilder and see how things come out.:)
     
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    I thought that I would try using RB-CCE Basic to back up a DVD to a VCD. Does anyone have any starter suggestions for settings?
     
  12. Sophocles

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    Doc

    I know that CCE is capable but I don't think that RB is but then again I've never tried it either.
     
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    Thanks. I've not seen where anyone used RB with CCE with this app, yet it seems like RB could be tweeked. There are also a couple of other transcoders (IC8 and DVDCopy2 I think) that will reduce to VCD, but I can/should discuss this in another thread.
     
  14. Sophocles

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    No Doc I wouldn't say that you were off topic, as long as your intentions are to succeed with the RB/CCE combination.

    Nowhere did it say in the threads title that a VCD outcome couldn't be a problem consideration, only that one should ask questions if they should experience an RB/CCE problem.
     
  15. vurbal

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    I wouldn't recommend CCE for MPEG-1 encoding. TMPGEnc is actually supposed to be just about as good as you can get for that, although I've also heard that MainConcept is probably the best. Personally I use TMPGEnc cause you can't beat the price (free for MPEG-1).
     
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    I'll give TMPGEnc a try. There's also a lot of info available on how to use this one.
     
  17. HKT3020

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    Okay everyone, thought I'd post this problem one more time now that the weekend is upon us.

    I so far have setup everything as it should be. Latest DVDRB, AviSynth, decoder but same error message still appears. I have no idea what gives?

    [​IMG]
     
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    It looks like a basic AVIsynth/Rebuilder setup problem.
    Something is in the wrong place or missing.

    You should redo from scratch and follow the guide as close as you can with no modifications.
    It would also simplify things if you were using CCE basic for setup purposes. Trial SP can be problematic sometimes.
     
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  19. HKT3020

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    Well here is a bit of interesting information to know. I have 1.5GB of Ram running in DC. Once I had upgraded my ram, I disabled virtual memory. As a last resort I enabled it and had XP system manage my memory. I had left DVDRB running, thinking that it wouldn't complete even though it was setup as supposed to. When I return after last night, DVDRB was still running and was 80% done. Before I knew it, the encode process has been completed. I had the filters running and just for kicks I still had it set to 10 pass encode. So I guess it's safe to say Virtual Memory should be enabled to have a successful encode.
    Thanks again for all the help everyone, much appreciated.
     
  20. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    HKT3020

    If you have the time and patience to review it, you'll discover that earlier in this tread we went into considerable detail regarding the importance of virtual memory. In some cases we've even suggested that individuals increase their virtual memory to surpass that which Windows sets by default.

    Working with DVDs means swapping unusually large files back and forth between your hard disk and your system's memory. When you're encooding with RB/CCE the amount of swapped files are going to be even larger because your system will be handling (D2VAVS)as well. When your systems memory is overun it's going to have to at some point, swap the files back to your hard disk and if it can't do that then your encode is going to fail.
     
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