Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Where was that installer when... Guess it would have taken a lot of the fun out of learning back in the earlier stages of development. Knowing where the parts are and how they work is part the interest for some of us. Having a self installer will make it a lot easier on the beginners now. Does the installer install AviSynth, the plugins and all?

 

brobear

Doc found the installer version a couple of months ago and sent it to me. I've never used it because I like doing my own setups and it uses a dated version of RB (its always behind) but yes apparently it installs everything.

 

Okay this post is really off topic but I posted in the forums and had no reply, so I thought who better to ask than those who appreciate good quality DVD playback. So here is my question, as of now which is the best upscaling DVD player out there. Working on a budget around $300 and looking for one that produce some great quality through HDMI (780P). Appreciate whatever feedback you have and you can message me so to avoid any continuation of off topic posts.

 

Source=C:\DVD\KING_ARTHUR\VIDEO_TS\
Working=C:\TRY\
Output=C:\DVD\KING_ARTHUR\OUTPUT\

This seems like an unusaul layout for ncages folders.
Maybe he is seeing the 7 gigs normal output folder size and not looking in the next folder down.
My recomendation would be start from scratch and follow the guide with no deviations. And preferably buy CCE basic.

CCE/Rebuilder has no sizing problems at this time that I'm aware of.

 

Sophocles,
You may be thinking about a different installer. This one is updated for the latest Public release of Rebuilder. I don't think it does a complete application installation. I just skimmed over it after jdobbs mentioned it. Check out the link. jdobbs himself is affiliated with this one. Those of us with the Donor versions will still have to load Rebuilder the hard way unless they start supplying us with the installer version. If they start that, I hope they have the option to browse for the folder.

 

An application installer can help users that have problemss configuring DVD-RB and its related software. THe instaler will never be a complete solution due to the cost of CCE BAsic. However, it will help first time users.

 

Noticed that the VIPs have access to DVD-RB v0.71. Now my question is this, previously I learned that ecl was not supported with 0.70 as well as the latest trial version of CCE SP. Has this been remedied in DVD-RB v0.71?

 

Yes. New for .71 RB, set the option in CCE Options to CCE SP Trial and then in Setup set the Path for SP to the ccspt.exe. I gave it a try and it works. It is a bit faster, but not a lot (at least on my old clunker). Be my guest to run the time trials for comparison. I don't have matching PCs so I'd have to do it on the same PC and I don't have that much time to waste on minute technicalities. Now if I was being paid, it would be a great job. LOL

 

It seems there is a problem with CCE 2.70's quantizer characteristics which means I think I'll hold off until a later version and stick it out with my current version which is 2.66. I wonder when we can expect an update, on DVD-RB. ;-)

 

What is the problem with CCE 2.70's quantizer characteristics?

 

Sigh... I wish people would understand what they are saying before they post.

CCE changed their scale on the Quality Prec variable back to 0-100 (from 0-64). If you want to fix it you just change the default value from 16 to 24. If you don't fix it... well it will have no discernable visible effect (as this setting is a very rough scale).

All this variable does is prioritize the usage of the bits for complex scenes. It isn't even related to the quantizer.

 

Thanks for clearing that up. It had me wondering. The trial I ran really looked good. I was wondering if something would creep out to bite me after the quantizer warning.

 

It really makes you wonder what they are thinking over at Cinemacraft. In version 2.50 they had the scale at 0-100. Then in version 2.6x they changed it to 0-64. Then when CCE Basic came out they set it to 0-100 again but left it in CCE SP. Now in CCE SP v2.70 they've changed it back to 0-100 again.

DVD-RB fixed the scale at 0-64 and does conversions when it writes the .ECL file (multiplies the value by 1.56 before it writes when the output scale is 0-100). I just need to add 2.70 to the list of conversions.

 

Am I right in assuming the Bias setting stays 25 for all?

 

Yes.

 

There are a fairly substantial group of other differences in the ECLs between versions, though. That's where the oversizing issue came in a few posts back. There was a mismatch between the version in use and the one selected. As a result the output was being done at a high constant bitrate -- and it was too big to burn.

This is my biggest complaint about CCE -- it's the worlds best MPEG-2 encoder, but the configuration management between versions really sucks.

 

Perhaps they do it just to annoy us, and of course you in particular.

When HD DVD's hit the market will someone find a way to compress it to dual layer discs. I realize that the size of a HD DVD can exceed 20 gigs but I'm betting that most won't be much larger that and with a little trimming of the extras and sound tracks it just might be possible to squeeze a high quality backup onto a single dual layer disc.

We all know how efficient MPEG4 is when compared to MPEG2, for instance a DiVx movie that comes in at around 1.5 gigs is virtually indistinguishable from the original at only a third of its size. The question is will there be eough interest among those who could make it happen to do it?

 

It will probably be H.264 (AVC) -- it was a separate standard completely until recently, but now they call it MPEG-4 part 10. Normally standard MPEG-4 output (like DivX for example) uses the standard in MPEG-4 part 2. The difference is pretty dramatic... you need a lot less bandwidth for H.264 for the same quality level.

As you might expect -- it is my plan to investigate how to make HD-DVD fit on an DVD-9 ;-)

GEEK-HO!!!

 

If the new HD format is more efficient than DiVx mpeg4 then even a fair amount of compression should render a good result.

I suspected that was a possibility. LOL