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Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Discussion in 'DVD / BD-Rebuilder forum' started by Sophocles, Jul 26, 2004.

  1. brobear

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    HKT3020
    Rockas answered the question which was pretty much a repeat of yours. The thread got seriously sidetracked for a while on the problem of pirated software. I don't remember anyone accusing you of using pirated software. Ozzy was the member who volunteered the fact he was using "Works" and trials without watermarks. Now the thread is back on track and you have your answer. I don't think anyone was playing favorites according to member levels.

    @rockas
    Thanks for the info. I'll give it a try. I was checking it out due to having tried the 2.70.1.5 and knew that trial worked properly. I wish I knew enough about the way the program works to understand how running the program minimized causes the encode command to be entered.
     
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  2. HKT3020

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    Definitely very odd, it seems DVD-RB skipped the creation of 2 files because they're missing in the D2AVS folder. The .flg, .vaf and .avs files are there, what I'm missing are .m2v files. and being that the solution mentioned doesn't apply with the 2.70 version/s then I guess I'm out of luck. I'll leave this on my hard drive for the time being but if anyone out there with 2.70 plus has a suggestion then it'll indeed be of some use to me. I'll post my rebuilder.ecl file later in the day, running a few encodes at the moment and won't be done possibly until after 3 or 4. As of now I'm off to take on the this so called winter storm we're having here in the big apple, hope to return later today with a few suggestions. ;-)
     
  3. sox2k4

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    HKT3020 - don't feel bad. i was very wrongly accused of having pirated software because the Senior Member didn't know what he/she was talking about with regards to my software. YET was willing to go out on a climb and call me out as a thief of software.

    i paid $58 to Visible Light for CCE Basic the second day that i had the trial. i always think its funny that some people get on a soapbox about this - nothing anyone says or does (short of making unbreakable software) is going to stop pirating. this is great software that has very few problems, THAT is what makes software sell itself.
     
  4. wild77

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    Just finished my first backup using

    DVD Rebuilder V 0.74 with the installer
    CCE SP Trial V2.70.02

    No problems at all and the picture is great!I am definately hooked and will be purchasing CCE Basic to do all my larger movies.

    Thanks to [bold]Jdobbs&Rockas[/bold]for the great software
     
  5. rockas

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    You just have to thank jdobbs... he is the "rock" guy :)

    I just made a simple installer 8)
     
  6. jdobbs

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    @hkt3020

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    It's possible a keystroke may have aborted the encode of those segments while DVD-RB was processing. Were you using the computer while it was encoding?

    You can redo just those two sections by opening the rebuilder.ecl and cut-and-pasting the correct setions into another .ecl file. You can then load that .ecl directly into CCE and encode. You also must cut-and-paste the header section...

    Take a look at "item.ecl" in the D2VAVS directory and you'll see what the final .ECL should look like.

    The other option is to just let it start over.

    I'm going to add some code to do a sanity check so it will catch when .M2V files are missing from the encode.
     
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  7. Nolos

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    Hmmm the list is growing.

    Fullasoul, Ozzy, HKT3020, sox2k.
     
  8. jdobbs

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    Hear, hear. Cinema Craft makes the best MPEG-2 encoder on the planet, bar none.
     
  9. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Finally! someone saying something nice to someone else.

    Can we all start off with a clean slate? Aren't we all here for the same purpose essential purpose?

    Let's share our experiences and help each other to overcome obstacles.

    CCE Basic is a really good encoder, and many of us have been fortunate enough to enjoy its attributes without incident.
     
  10. jdobbs

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    @drmadcow
    You don't understand how DVD-RB works. You will not get a better bit distribution by doing the entire movie. DVD-RB scans the MPEG stream during the PREPARE stage and the bitrate is allocated based upon that scan. In other words one pass of analysis is already completed on the entire stream before the encoding is even begun... there have been many discussions and tests done (documented on DOOM9) that show your statement to be incorrect.

    ECLCCE is supported because I own a legal copy of v2.50 SP (yes I know it's old, but they didn't have CCE Basic back then and I love it) -- and it can only support command line options through the use of ECLCCE.

    There are rare circumstances in which a transcoder can outperform an encoder. But they are very rare and only when the the starting bitrate was excessively high (greater than was needed).

    Note: You will also find that you cannot correctly encode many movies (for solid technical reasons) using an all-at-once approach. In addition, there are many reasons why certain parts of a film have to begin on an I-FRAME, since CCE Basic has no mechanism for forcing I-FRAMES you could not create a frame-accurate representation of the movie without breaking it out into segments.
     
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  11. Nolos

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    Sophocles

    I agree, I have been following the thread for some weeks since using CCE and DVD rebuild, and have overcome my own obstacles by reading those who have shared their experiences, and advice. As Im sure many others have too.

    I think however the future of the thread is linked directly to new members of which four out of the last six have complained about a senior members responses.


     
  12. HKT3020

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    @jdobbs

    I manually encoded the missing files but before doing so I gave it a better look and noticed 6 .m2v files were missing. I created a .ecl file and had CCE do the rest, it all came back successful afterwards when rebuilding and it burned A-okay. However one problem remained, after burning the disc I took a few minutes to view it on my DVD player and noticed that the video played back pixelated and quite jagged. ;-( There is something definitely odd about this DVD and it'll be a nice little project if you have the time. I should also note that there are multiple angles on the disc as there are with todays CG films. Other than that it looked like a normal DVD to me, guess I'll take Sophocles' advice and run it through Shrink.

    Here is a image capture by the way...

    http://img180.exs.cx/img180/9929/pdvd0003cu.png
     
  13. vurbal

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    This is the only reason I didn't buy CCE Basic for a long time. It was also the original reason I donated for DVD-RB since it's the first program I found that could guarantee keeping the original chapter points because of the segmented encoding.
     
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    Anyone had tried DVD-RB with Procoder 2 ? How about compare qualities bettween Procoder 2 and CCE?
    Thanks
     
  15. jdobbs

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    @HKT3020

    What is the title of the movie? If it's available I'll buy a copy and run it through some tests.

    Six missing M2Vs... that concerns me. What version of CCE are you using?
     
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  16. HKT3020

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    I consider a rental being that its the Bonus disc for Spiderman 2, definitely not worth a purchase I say. For this particular test I was using CCE 2.70.01.05 and now I went back to using the trusty old 2.69.01.10 version with the same results.
    Also to answer your question earlier, I was away from the computer and I'm positive no one disrupted DVD-RB, being that my door was locked. ;-)
     
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  17. jdobbs

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    Is it NTSC? I already own that one and have done it. I will run it through again today.
     
  18. HKT3020

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    Yes, its the NTSC version and I'm using DVD-RB 0.74b.
     
  19. Nolos

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    Im still doing Lord of the rings I, II, and III extended. As most would know there is no Extras on the movie disk,

    The Menus are up to a gig in size, so I have used Nero recode to shrink them, and the credits on disk two of each volume is up to a gig also, but I have no way of decreasing its size.

    Is there any function in DVDRebuild to steel space from say, the credits to decrease the size of the credits? other than removing them?

    Nolos
     
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  20. rockas

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    Have you tried RB-OPT?
     

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