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I tried Quality Prec for SP 2.70 at 24, and found a drop in quality, I tried it against quality prec 16 2 passes, 3 passes and 6 passes, and the notable difference was 6 passes were prec 24 was considerably lower quality. Anyone found better quality from changing to 24 prec?

Nolos

 

The quality precedence setting decides priority among image areas which the encoder assigns to allocate the bit amount. In DVD-RB a value of 0 to 64 can be specified. It's important that you think about it on that scale, because different versions of CCE use different scales. DVD-RB will interpret the 0-64 value to the proper scale for the specific CCE version.

The initial value is 16. As the value becomes closer to 0, a higher bit amount is allocated to complicated images areas. As the value becomes closer to 64, a higher bit amount is allocated to flat image areas. When the value is close to 0, the mosquito noise at the edges (noise causing hazy part along the edges, looking like flying mosquitoes) is less outstanding, but the contouring noise (noise which looks like contour line patterns, which appear in flat and wide areas, such as a dark background) is more outstanding. The opposite occurs when the value is closer to 64.

I've found that the 16 setting is best for most encoding sessions.

(Some of this text is "borrowed" from the CCE manual)

 

Hi jdobbs,

the mosquito noise at the edges is the effect I got, I tried it on one of the LOTR_SEE which are a full 8gig, the changes from one interview to another showed these mosquito noise. The 16 prec showed no such affect, and seemed to be of simular visual quality in all other areas, Well with my tv and pc setup in any case, which is what matters to me.

I also found that image quality was not noticable better with any extra passes from 3 to 6, 2 to 3 was beter and 3 to 6 passes better again but in between I could see no improvement. With the documentries I dont mind the Cincraft log so I have been doing 6 pass on them, with great results. Although the each disk was not totaly consistant in quality even though they are simular size.

It great testing but the time involved is extreem.

Nolos.

PS I think I just became your newest VIP member, thank you for your great programe, it will save many of my prized DVDs from distruction from the evil children. LOL

 

@jdobbs

I downloaded the latest version of DVD-RB which was just released and tried the Spidey 2 D2 again and well it went a little further this time. It stopped at 70% with #0004 error. I understand you're quite busy but I did notice that the disc has lots of multi angle clips, 4 in fact and a composite clip with all playing at once. Still interested on whether or not you got this to work? ;-)

 

Are we talking about Spiderman 2 Bonus disc? I thought I'd zoomed right through it -- but in fact it has multiple angles that need the ILVU encoding feature I'm working on.

I don't understand the #0004 error... I do several discs a day in testing (I have over 500 in my collection), and I haven't seen a #0004 error in months.

If not Spiderman 2 Bonus, which movie is giving you problems?

 

@jdobbs,
The couple of tests I ran with the SP 2.70 trial with the quality precedence set to 24 turned out good and I didn't notice any flaws running at 3 passes. The last test I ran, the DVD content was about 7.9GB. So, there was ample compression to cause problems if there was going to be any.

I was under the impression that due to the change in scales in the CCE programs, a precedent setting of 24 for SP 2.70 is the same as 16 for the SP 2.67. That was the impression I got from a previous post. If I have it wrong, then should the quality precedent setting be 16 for both SP 2.67 and 2.70?

 

What you are saying is true -- but you would still set it to 16 in DVD-RB no matter what version you are using. DVD-RB would then interpret that and insert a 24 into the .ECL for SP v2.70 (also for SP v2.50, and Basic 2.69 which has a 0-100 scale as well).

It really doesn't have as much impact as some might think. If you set it to 24 it would interpret to 37 on a scale of 0-100 which is still reasonable.

 

@ jdobbs

Yep, still talking about the Spidey 2 Bonus disc here. I would just leave it alone with Shrink or DC3 but the results weren't as I hoped it to be, menu looked a bit jagged in my opinion. You are right about the ILVU clips though, I came across that when browsing the DVD through Remake. This is the only disc that is giving me this problem, other than that all my encodes work perfect. Also I like to add a big thank you on releasing DVDRB .77PR, I also caught your little added txt file so expect a donation soon. ;-)

 

sorry if the answer is here already but I missed it.

I bought this program based on this forum's praise of it . Now if I can get it to work.

I think it is all set up right but the path to decoder the only path that will work is the one to EclCCE for the trial.
It is processing now , who knows if it will work

 

Interesting... RB is free and you only are asked to make a donation if you want to support development. CCE is the only initial cost if one buys CCE Basic. The new SP trial doesn't use eclCCE (only SP trials work with RB, the Basic trial times out). CCE SP trials prior to 2.70 use eclCCE.

So, if you stated the situation properly, then what you're doing should NOT work. eclCCE points to the trial CCE encoder, not the decoder. Where you have the path to the CCE, the path would be to the eclCCE execute file which works the CCE SP trial. The decoder path should point to the decoder plugin in the Avisynth folder, something like dgdecode or mpegdec3. Post your configuration folder from the Rebuilder folder and we may be able to see what you did. Also, it would be handy to know what versions of the software you used to install RB/CCE.

Normally one waits to see if a program fails before commenting on setup; not while it's still running. Sort of a waste of time if it works. Which it won't, unless you stated the situation incorrectly.

 

I used the installer by Rockas with the sp trial and had no problems,maybe you should give that a try here is the link for V 0.77
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org//modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=14

 

Great Bro, another positive responce. Thankfully you are not the marketing manager for the product.

 

@datman

You may want to try the Rockas Installer and install the public release. After it is done you can just copy the latest REBUILDER.EXE (assuming you have the Pro version) file into the rebuilder directory.

Are you using CCE, QuEnc, HC, or ReJig?

 

Nolos

You're right thankfully he isn't the marketing manager!

Marketing manager product?

 

Nolos

I am not the marketing manager for the product, though I am a proponent of the RB app.

I merely pointed out there is no purchase of trialware in the case of the CCE SP trial. Also, one doesn't purchase the RB to use with it. Though jdobbs I am sure appreciates the donations to help keep the development going. I was also kind enough to point out that according to what was posted, the setup needed to be changed. All in all, an informative post. I don't believe one needs to act like another's mother to post on the forum.

And another of your snide little remarks. If you have a problem with what I say, report it to a mod. Otherwise, we don't need your little remarks about what who says and when. Get a life.

When they make you a mod, then you can start trying to control the forums. We get back on track and someone like you jumps in and accomplishes what you're accusing me of.

 

Just like brobear said, we're all proponents of RB. Marketing managers we're not.

 

Quote Brobear:
I don't believe one needs to act like another's mother to post on the forum.

Great then dont speek to people like you are.

In this thread alone, as I have not read any others, I have seen at least five people make comment about the manner of your responces, I have seen only one of them continue to post. Dont you think you should take note of that?

Thats one quarter of new posters complained and left.

I dont have to be a mod to be concerned about that.

 

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The words you use and your manner above only serve to prove my point.

In regards to Prec scales, I tested different configurations for five days, 6 passes does indead make a difference, as does the outcome when changing to 24 from 16. Thats my opinion. However if you feel my testing efforts are bordering on anal and usless, then that is your opinion.

I dont have a problem with your opinion, only your words and your manner.

 

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