Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

Since everyone gets jittery, I didn't want to mention that possibility. A regular CCE SP trial would suffice just as well if it is a hack causing the problem.

I Robot, 7.57 GB; RB version 0.79 PRO; CCE SP Trial 2.70.01 (tried to keep it close to what jugbugs has); AviSynth 2.56 beta 1; DGDecode.dll 1.2.0; (these are the next to last releases of AviSynth and DGDecode, not the latest which are AviSynth beta 2 and DGDecode.dll 1.2.1); I ran 3 passes. The 7.57GB file encoded to 4.34GB and the quality is excellent. I've backed up over 20 movies with this version of AviSynth and DGDecode and feel fairly safe in recommending their use to anyone else. [bold]I found out quickly that AviSynth 2.56 beta 2 and DGDecode.dll 1.2.1 do not work with the current versions of Rebuilder.[/bold]

 

Hi there,
first, thanks to creators of DVD-RB, cool proggie...

Question: I'm using CCE 2.69 Basic with Rebuilder 0.78, all the settings according to Afterdawn Guide, everything seems to work fine, but 6.5GB movie mounted like ISO thru DaemonTools, is being processed cca 20-30min., but Preparation ends after VTS_01_1.VOB is done, and doesnt continue with VTS_01_2, 01_3, ... etc,
so the result is only the first 22-23 minutes of the movie are transcoded /output is correct, in Video_TS directory, with menu untouched, as its supposed to be.../. Is there anything I'm missing in Setup?

Thanx in advance for the answer.
H.

 

An interesting question came up with doing this test. The updated decoder and AviSynth shaved about 20 minutes off the encode time. The video returned a MPEG2 source error and wouldn't show. The audio was good and the file was sized to 4.34GB just as the good encode turned out. So, I was left with the question, if the RB was updated to use the newer plugin and AviSynth (if possible), would it actually be faster? There was a cut in time before with the change from MPEG2Dec3dg.dll to DGDecode.dll.

 

@hotmailik
The problem could be with the source and using a file mounted as a DVD in an emulator. Try ripping the file to the hard drive in file format to see if that makes a difference. Have you tried the RB/CCE setup with a DVD ripped to the hard drive in File mode and how did it turn out? If you want us to take a look at the set up, post your configuration settings.

 

@brobear:

thanks a lot for the good point. I'll try as soon I'm on my computer at home. Will let you know tomorrow.


@brobear:
ripping DVD in files was of no help. So I've changed my CCE Basic 2.69 for CCE SP 2.67.00.27 retail and eveything's working fine since then /with files, haven't tried with ISO image as there was no need for it/. Thanx anyway, quality of the backup is definetely better then that of CloneDVD2, though there's no need to use CCE+DVDRB for backups of reduction to 85% or more, as it takes too long and CloneDVD2 works fine and errorless for these low-compressed movies.
Regards,
H.

 

I've been following as much of this thread as possible, but I still can't figure out one thing.
Why should one prefer to use DGDecode.dll over MPEG2Dec3dg.dll?
What are the differences? I mean, meaningfull stuff.

 

Check out http://neuron2.net/dgmpgdec/dgmpgdec.html for what they do, they're decoder plugins. DGDecode is simply the updated version of MPEG2Dec3dg. Here is what the neuron site says.

DGDecode is upgraded to work better with the 2.5 version of AviSynth. Nothing mysterious, one is the later version of the other. They changed the names to prevent confusion. Is that confusing enough? As I said, you can get more on the particulars from the neuron2 site. Check out the home page there, you'll find some useful links.

 

Ok, just the fact that one is a newer version of the other is good enough for me

I managed to download the 1.20 version by substituting the 1 in '1.21' for a 0 on the Neutron site.
Seemed to work, just hope I got the right version.

So versions later don't work? That's too bad. But how about support with 3rd party tools like NuMenu4u? Will it work if I just replace DVD2AVI with the DGIndex? (obviously renaming it first).

 

What version comes with the installer? Might be a good place to start.

 

It seems to be 1.20, that's fine.
What I'm wondering now is this:

If DGDecode.dll and DGIndex belong together like MPEG2Dec3dg.dll belongs to DVD2AVI, can I just exchange the decoding .dll's and expect my setup to work completely normal? (I use NuMenu4U with RB78)

 

What sort of differences would I see between the CCE SP version 2.67 and 2.70.20? I would be mostly concerned with quality of encodes...

P.S. I think I got my problem figured out, I was using an older version of avisynth and a trial version of the CCE encoder that appeared to be faulty. I am now using a version that works, thanks to jdobbs and brobear for your help.

 

For working with Rebuilder, you'll probably notice little if any difference between the 2 versions.

You're welcome, glad to see you got the problem resolved. The CCE Basic is only $58. So, if you like the RB setup, it might be an idea to go with that. Basic (Retail) is sound and does a good job. For a $10 (or more) donation to jdobbs, you get on the VIP list where you get the latest releases of the PRO version of RB. The new version .80 came with a free encoder the guys are checking out now. Some of those "trials" off the net can get to be a problem sometimes, as you recently found out. Good luck.

 

I've just released the "Rebuilder's Matrix Editor"... you can download it here:
http://www.dvdrebuilder.com/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=viewdownload&cid=24

Hope you make a good use of it

 

And another step to take... what are matrices? What can I do with them?

 

After I get done encoding and rebuilding the next step is to burn. Using Nero how should I go about this? Simply drop the the AUdio_TS and VIDEO_TS folders into a data DVD? or make a a Video DVD and add the contents of the VIDEO_TS folder?

 

jugbugs

Other than forget about dropping the audio folder and just drop the VIDEO_TS folder into its Nero counterpart and click burn. That's it

 

@ tijgert

To answer your question about matrices I don't think anyone yet has any definite answers to give you. Being that those settings are newly added features all I can say is experiment with it. I still haven't really gotten around to it yet but eventually I will. ;-)

 

I haven't really used matrices via DVD-RB's matrix editor. But i have used them often via RbOpt (DVD-RB addon). The way i like to describe them is similer to the "sharpen" and "smooth" functions in DVD Shrink. But not quite as simple. It's usually not good to use them (in my opinion) Unless your compression is lower then about a bitrate of, say, 2900-3000. Then it's just kinda up to you really. Using the proper matrice on something that's REALLY low biterate, can help the picture quality a lot. It shows off what CCE can do at lower bitrates. My faves are Kika Comic High and AngelBestLow.

 

Well, then Matrices might be the answer to my latest problem.
I'm currently CCE'ing some Stargate DVD's with RB78 + CCE 2.67.02.00. This I do after ripping all unneeded crap out of the menu with DVDRemake and stealing even more bits with NuMenu4U. But for a DVD with around 3,5 hours of video I still get an average bitrate of around 3000 and some noise around the edges.
The Quality Prec is at 16 (what I believe to be standard) and stubborn fusker as I am I make it a 9 pass encoding (it does seem the more passes, the more accurate the final size will be as to requested).

So, will Matrices help me out here? And how do I go about using them? (please, a small step by step guide voor a Matrix noob)

 

Hmmm i don't know why you would be having any problems at all with a bitate of around 3000. I'm a horrible teacher, i don't have the patience. So no step by step guide here. LOL. I say ditch the menu altogether. I hate to say that but i'm gonna. And with a bitrate of 3000 or more, i'm not sure exactly how a matrice can help, BUT...you should ask some of the Pro's around here. If i had to lean towards a matrice to use for you situation it would be Kika Comic High. Here's a lot more info about RbOpt http://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?s=&threadid=75202 . I hope it helps.