Experiencing Difficulty Using DVD RB and CCE? If So, Then Ask Your Questions Here.

jdobbs:

Rebuilder just went into phase 2. It opened CCE windows and started creating the m2v files...


I'll keep you posted.

Thank you for your interest in this matter.

 

@GMA77

Thanks. But I'd still like to see that value if possible. CCE v2.70 is having some problems with certain types of encodes, and I'm trying to find ways to make it work.

 

I also had a problem with DVD-RB undersizing the output for the movie Darkness. I used DVD-RB 0.84 free and CCE SP 2.70.02.00 Trial. I used menushrink and pgcedit to blank the previews and trailer, but this process hasn't caused a problem with the other couple of DVDs I used to test DVD-RB. Here's the PREPARTION log:

[02:57:24] Phase I, PREPARATION started.
- "Steal Space from Extras" mode is enabled.
- VTS_01: 3,119,906 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Processed 147,148 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- VTS_04: 164,949 sectors.
-- Scanning and writing .D2V file
-- Embedded null records found
-- Processed 12,293 frames.
-- Building .AVS and .ECL files
- Reduction Level for DVD-5: 69.3%
- Overall Bitrate : 5,032Kbs
- Space for Video : 4,084,902KB
- Movie improvement from extra reduction = 1.9%
- HIGH/LOW/AVERAGE Cell Bitrates: 5,625/786/5,032 Kbs
[03:02:39] Phase I, PREPARATION completed in 5 minutes.

The VTS_01 VOBs before encoding totaled 6,240,392 KB less the 280,000 KB French audio I had DVD-RB remove equals 5,960,392 KB. After encoding the VTS-01 VOBs totaled 3,796,874 KB. Which is a reduction to 64% and I think it actually should have been somewhere around 71.20%.

 

@jdobbs:

I think this what you asked me to find out in the REBUILDER.INF file:
=======================
Status]
mode=1
Original_Size=3980656
Excluded_Audio_Sub_Size=11055
VTS_01_SIZE=2312692
VTS_03_SIZE=183448
VTS_04_SIZE=483250
VTS_05_SIZE=183715
VTS_06_SIZE=78417
Progress=1
CCEType=2
Encode_Progress=40
[V0100001]
Last_Sector=1229969
[V01000000001001]
SCR=,000
PTS=25257,000
Frame_Rate_Code=1
Pulldown=0
Structure=3
Frames=9485
First_Sector=0
...
==========================

So far, Cinema Craft is still working...

 

@McMadman

Sorry, but I can't predict what is going to happen when you use other tools on the source. I couldn't possibly debug it. Please run DVD Rebuilder alone and see if it sizes properly...

As for the reduction... it is calculated based upon the size of the original, the size of the target output, all the "as-is" VTSs, the audio that is to be removed, and the video that will be reduced.

I'm running the NTSC version of "Darkness" as I type this.

 

@jdobbs

I know that you can't debug if third party software is used to edit source before using DVD-RB. My final backup of Darkness (even though it was under 4.0 GB) looks and works fine, so I wasn't going to put it in as a problem. However, since Ppower posted that he/she had a problem with DVD-RB over compressing Darkness, I thought I would post also in case there was something special with this movie that was causing a problem. I am a complete noob, but the overall bitrate of 5,032 kbs is quite a bit higher than any of the other movies I've backed up with DVD-RB. Is there some type of Max Bitrate cap that doesn't exist in the prepare/analysis phase, but occurs in the encoding phase? Just a thought from an ignorant person.

 

I'm backing up DARKNESS right now to see how it comes out.

 

@GMA77 and others

If you're using the freeware version you may want to download the latest version (v0.85). It has a couple of adjustments in it to help prevent CCE v2.70 from crashing and leaving you without a .M2V file.

It will probably make it to Afterdawn later today or tomorrow -- but you can get it now at http://www.dvd-rb.com or http://info.dvd-rb.com.

 

By the way...
maybe you should download the help file I've compiled... get it here:
http://dvd-rb.dvd2go.org/modules.php?name=Downloads&d_op=getit&lid=50

The Beginners should read it at least once

 

Can you tell me what setting I need to apply to do a high-quality OPV encode with Hanks encoder. I am using DVD-Rebuilder Pro 0.87.

 

Just select it under the HC options. DVD-RB will take care of the rest. One pass encoding is different than multipass. It works toward a constant quality (quantizer) (CQ) setting. It will use whatever bitrate it needs to get that quality (as long as it doesn't exceed the maximum). DVD-RB will run some passes using 1% of the source to get a prediction as to what the highest CQ is that will fit on a DVD-5 for that DVD...

For right now, I wouldn't recommend using OPV with any of the "movie only" options. The CQ value calculation is done before those changes are instituted. That will change in future versions of DVD-RB.

 

Ppower

I made a couple of succesful backups using 87a but I didn't get another chance to try it again because jdobbs released .88. In fact that's been the modality of late. I've yet to have a version that has failed me.

 

I hear you Sophocles I've done about 5 with 0.87a. Only Darkness gave me trouble. I haven't got 0.88 yet but waiting patiently

 

Thanks, Soph... I hope I'm not sending out too many versions -- I'm anxious to kill the remaining Gremlins so I can finish tighten down the hatches for v1.00.

@Ppower

I just did Darkness tonight. No issues, but it did come in a little small (4.03GB) -- I'm going to look at it tomorrow to see why.

 

Ppower

I'll get a copy of "Darkness" and check it out and just to be fare I'll go Back to .87a to do the encode.


For those that seem to be having some minor problems, remember the quality of your hardware, setup, correct versions (donate a few dollars to get them regularly), and file paths can make all the difference in success.

 

Don't worry, take it easy

 

Sophocles that would be great, I look forward to your results

 

jdobbs

Not at all, just keep them coming and I'll check them out as fast as I can. Besides, summer is coming and I'm off for two months to play, and if that doesn't get me started and on task then hurricane season will.

 

I processed a DVD with DVDRB/CCE and burnt the result. However the disc was doggy I think as I ended with a skipper. The files in my Temp directory were deleted after the burn however I still have the D2VAVS folder with all the encoded .Vafs and .M2V files. Is there any way to do the last bit of the process again "Rebuild" or will I have to run it from the beginning again.

 

Did you check the original for the same skip. The problem also could have occurred during ripping. I've never tried going back to the D2VAVS folder to try and rebuild again, and I don't have any D2VAVS folders to experiment with. If you want to try it, open DVD-RB and go to mode at the top left of your tool bar and uncheck "One Click Mode" and then look to the bottom right and you'll see the rebuild tab. If this was the last movie that you completed then click the tab and see if it will rebuild your movie. Like I said I've never tried but I am curious.