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Experiment: Want to test D/L HDDVD's against upconverted SD DVD's how to burn. Definative guide Needed!

Discussion in 'HD DVD discussion' started by indyjase, Dec 16, 2007.

  1. indyjase

    indyjase Member

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    Hey there Guys....
    to eatsushi

    The reason that I went with the Samsung was not really a choice, as to basically to cut a long story short HHgregg were doing an offer with the sharp Aquos LT4664 TV with a free bluray player and after numerous screw ups and one incredibly p$$$ed off wife she basically told them enough was enoughgive us a different TV that we would choose as well as a free bluray player, wallmount monster power conditioner, monster coax cable and 100 bucks gift card they said OK....LOL bless my wife!!!! we waited for them for another 2 weeks to have any Bluray players in and all they had was the samsung and the misses used her divine logic that it matches the TV so we got that one...so as it was for free I can't complain y'know samsung LTN 4671F 1080p 120htz, samsung BD1400 bluray, oni wall mount, monster HTS 1000 power conditioner, 6ft monster coax cable for under 1700 bucks...not bad

    Goodswipe
    good choice of samsung TV... I went for the LTN4671F as it was the best they had in the store after so many different comparisons with other models. Having lived with it in real world conditions for the past month I have to say I still look at it a go whoa that is a great pict, and I am not easily pleased. The HDDVD looks amazing, HDTV looks stunning as do upconverted DVD as well as using the PC on it...PS2 looks, well crappy actually, in comparison with my old sony tube HDTV but then it was only 32". best brick store deal I have seen is frys which was 2200 bucks....and yes the 120htz does make a huge difference. Good deep blacks rich vibrant colours and one happy wife...what more could I want...LOL!!!!!
     
  2. indyjase

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    have looked at the 2 threads above and er...um...didn't really find any negatives at all about the 1400, if anything quite the opposite pict quality up there with the way more expensive pioneer and great sound quality...LOL now all I need to do is get some more bluray disks to play....lol!!!!!!

    One thing I will say though is that I notice a huge difference in the way people buy audio or video stuff here in the states as opposed to the UK....here its what BB or CC or a discount store has in stock whereas in the UK there are loads of smaller specialist stores....Just an observation having lived in both countries. Granted I live in a hick farm town in indy which is not the greatest comparison after living in London...both have their merits....and drawbacks....but the buying ethos is very different here.....
     
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    Yes, indyjase you are quite right about that.

    I live in Australia and there are a number of stores that are strong competition amongst each other... Bing Lee, JB Hi-Fi, Harvey Norman, Domayne, The Good Guys, Clive Peeters... The list goes on.

    When I had been to the USA (I once stayed 3 months for business), it seems that Best Buy and Circuit City (maybe also CompUSA) were the major players in the tech scene.
     
  4. indyjase

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    it is easy to see why HDDVD failed and the impact that it has had on the world market just by what a very few stores decide to do...I noticed on the avs thread that every other person posting on there had an onkyo receiver...Great I have one myself but I would like to have a bit more choice, hard to find anywhere with really high end stuff on offer like arcam, tag, ect....but falling within the price brackets of what is offered at BB and CCbecause being honest most salespeople in those stores have a criteria or objective to sell or push as opposed to being passionate such as you chaps on here about audio and Hi fi.
     
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    getting off the subject a bit there!!! Tested out the BD1400 with star wars dvd last night....stunning pic first time actually happy!!! also tried a backup copy of ratatouille looks great, but for some reason both backups I have tried on the sammy seem to what to skip to the next chapter before the end of the one it is playing so you miss 30 secs every once in a while. Now on the orginal copy of rat... no skiping....will have to keep an eye on this....strange as on orginal dvd's the sammy does a better job and on backups the tosh does, well at least the tosh wont just sit on the rack collecting dust...lol!!!!!
     
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    You didn't read enough posts. For example:

    http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=13360400#post13360400

     
  7. eatsushi

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    I may have been too harsh with the POS comment but according to a few friends who work in AV specialty retail, the Samsung BD players have the highest rate of returns and repair requests. There are units that could perform well but others have significant issues. I don't know if it's a QC problem or not. Players from other brands, especially the Panasonics, have much better reputations.
     
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    O.K fair comment.....I agree as I have had issues with it skiping to the next chapter before the end of the previous one...but that was with backup copies only.....as an upconvertor...not really great to be honest...just played spiderman 3 no problems to report and it looked great. I concede POS if I'd have paid for it then I would take it back, cuz I know if I complain to the misses she'll take the credit off the card as opposed to another Bluray play after all the probs we had!!!!! Free is a reasonable price for the player and that I will argue....My A3 is way better for upconverting so I'll just use the sammy for bluray until the time comes later this year to upgrade to something really nice after all the profile crap is sorted out and more companies are able to build bluray...hmmmm I do fancy a Arcam Bluray when there is one available, so for the time being I'll use the sammy...happy am I not really and if I didnt have the tosh I really would be p$$#y for SDdvd playback..I would not recomend this player at all.....I blink and the bloody thing looks dusty spent more time cleaning the player than playing it....although I am remodelling the whole downstairs of the house at the moment so everything does get mucky but still....I would have hated the thought of buying a lemon if I'd have parted with cash....I usually drive everyoneone nuts researching stuff...as thats half the fun but this was indeed a decision taken by the misses...not trying to pass the buck here..lol!!!! and really on the spur of the moment...so bugger I must stay!!!!!

    Goodswipe
    did you get the TV went and checked it out last night wonderful pict... I like dlp I find is has a more cinamatic effect than LCD for movies as well as the large screen...space constraints ruled it out here as the sammy will eventually be mounted on the fireplace once I get to the lounge part of the remodeling....hey only just got a toilet that I can flush for the first time in a week!!!! so it might be a month before I get the the fun part of building a new fireplace and custom cab for everything to be housed in and as I am doing 80 % of the work myself in amongst everything else if feels very slow at the moment. Hence not posting on here of the last day of so!!!!!!
     
  9. indyjase

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    Well having lived a few days with the BDP 1400 I am starting to warm to it and indeed it is getting better as an upconverting player for SD DVD's but it is not in the same league as the toshiba A3 for that at all....Now for bluray disks it is fine well pretty good actually not found any skipping or freezing up as yet so that is nice....I still feel that the consumer's right of choice has been neglected with the death of HDDVD as I would have to say that given the choice of only one format I would have preffered HDDVD. If honest, then we all know that DRM will not be an issue latter down the line as everything gets bypassed eventually, so in reality studios should not have really counted on that as a specific reason for the choice of bluray and thay would be better to lower the prices of disks and players and get more mass interest in the format especially with the digital switchover coming up. I mean in reality how much more of an opportunity can you put infront of companies....so market the switchover as new HDTV with cheap bluray and lower disk prices and the format will thrive. Fail to recognize this and we have another laserdisk....Great quaility for those that want to pay outta the ass!!!! but for mr and mrs smith doing the weekly walmart shop no picking up a bluray or two with the groceries, which in turn means prices of disks will remain high and availability poor....This has all of the makings to be a marketing dream with so many factors coming into play at once in your favor, but I but it is just washed over until thanksgiving to push everything again rather than be progressive throughout the whole year driving prices down and infiltrating the mass market.....Hmmmm lets just see what happens...You never know one of the bluray or digital switchover people might stumble across this and actually take note.....Oh and to BB and CC lets see cheap combined packages for HDTV and bluray to get more people onboard.....I want more movies, more choice and lower prices....One sentance sums up the reason priacy is a rife as it is....Also though most new music in the last couple of years has been p$$$ poor movies have been so so If the movie and music industry were judged on quaility control, like other business that would be interesting...They know they are producing crap cuz we are not allowed to return the stuff if it is rubbish.....That to me tells me that they have no faith in their products....Someone tell me what other goods you buy that from new have a sold as is policy!!! Just a few thought for people to mull over...Not trying to force any opinions just want to see what you guys think!!!!!!!
     
  10. handford

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    help. new to this, i wish to convert a real player dvd downloaded from a supplier in order to play on a uk pal dvd player, any suggestions on required softwear please.
     
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    This is not even close to being on topic, try here: http://forums.afterdawn.com/forum_view.cfm/126
     
  12. indyjase

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    well I just did a side by side comparison with King Kong HDDVD against upconverting the SD DVD on both the tosh and the sammy....thus far I have yet to find a title on sd dvd that the sammy does a better job than the tosh at upconverting...difference between the HDDVD and the upconvert.....HUGE....better color for one thing,really sharp pict, good all round disk!!!! great job at mastering the HD on this movie, a well worth upgrade over the SD DVD.....Now tried the same thing with the fifth element bluray....Vs upconvert....the difference is not 25 bucks worth that is for sure, it reminded me of watching the first dvd of blade runner where some scenes were crisp and others were almost vhs standard and you felt like someone was switching channels on you at various points in the movie...that is exactly how this was....As I also have the superbit version of the movie threw that into the mix to see how goog that was upconverted and the difference was even less between up and bluray.....Does anyone of you guys out there know of a site that gives great reviews on HDDVD and bluray, especially in comparison to SD.....
     
  13. goodswipe

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    No, I haven't bought anything yet. I've got caught up in another hobby of mine right now and it has been taking up more of my time. I haven't got around to fooling with all my HT gear yet. :(

    Have you looked around High Def Digest? I know they have some pretty fair comparisons of HD DVD and Blu-ray. Not sure about SD DVD.
     
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