Fahrenheit 9/11 What's all the fuss about?

I think that Moore put a bit too much spin on his tale. I think the point would have gotten across if he would have just stuck with the truth.

What's truly scary is that since the release of the film, more has come out to support his belief's that to disprove it -

The bottom line, We's in a heap "O" mess now isn't we ???

LOL - Prisoner, carrying all those guns and with no sense of humor, you're pretty scary -

Cheers,

 

i know im late but i just had to reply to this. in actual fact the only reason murder has risin in australia, well in victoria where i live, is only because theres a fued going on between local gangsters that has hit boiling point and their just topping each other off like theres no tomorrow(in my opinion they can go for it, their servicing the community), but the fued pre dates the year the gun control law came into effect, those people are always gonna get guns no matter how tight the laws are, but other gun related crimes such as armed rob ect ect have all dropped to a record low. conclusion, the more guns a country has the more gun related crimes theres gonna be plain and simple, but in americas case i think its abit to late for a gun control law, shit its in your constitution that the people have a right to bare arms so i dunno, but put a gun in a stupid persons hand and stupid things will happen, especially when its so easy for the stupid person to get the gun in the first place, but dont worry, the nra would never let a gun control law come into play .

 

What you talking about willus, no sense of humor!! Also I don't have any guns. I do have a bunch of swords that I could use to cut through. I would like to be just like Kenshen. (Japanese Anime)

I always thought that should be taken direct. You are allowed to carry arms. That would be so much funnier, a band of americans trying to club people with limbs they find on some old dead people.

But back to Moore, I think I really need to see this movie. Its not hard to make fun of Bush, there was evern a TV show that made fun of him. But I think we will be stuck with 4 more years. Despide Moore's belifs.

 

I've seen the Fahrenheit 911 and found it a very interesting documentary that makes you think about a lot of things. Why did America and the Uk invade Afganhistan? To catch the bastards that hit the WTC. Did they catch them? Bin Laden and most of the Taliban escaped last time I checked. Interesting. And why invade Iraq? To end the regime of Sadam, fair enough. But why Sadam and not one of the dictators in Africa? Because Sadam has weapons that are still not found, strangely enough. But I wouldn't go so far to call Moore a hero. He's too fat. Hunter S. Thompson IS a real American hero.

 

Moore's message ?

A direct link to terrorists there and to see how the rest of the world perceived the USA as an aggressor, Yea, I buy that. Noting that the world was complacent ? Let's take care of Daddy's business from years gone by?

Well let's see, HEY, I've got an idea, let's get rid of Saddam and play in his oil fields, (No, I didn't mean to say that) Let's PROTECT his oil fields for the good old US of A. It just so happens that Daddy Bush has friends that would LOVE to have an open-ended contract to rebuild an entire country (We don't need no stinkin' bids here.).

The Republicans:
Yea, I know There really are weapons of mass destruction there - and we were just weeks away from an attack upon us from Iraq. Our president would never lie to the American people - - No, it couldn't be so -


My view:
We need someone to bring our boys and girls home. We've lost too many American lives during our invasion of a non-threatening state. We're not wanted there, they're killing us, give them back their oil and end it.

 

Are you saying fat people can't be hero's? What about Fat Albert man, that guy was great and you can't get bigger than that.

 

I guess heroes come in all forms, prisoner. But if you look at a hero as a person who makes sacrifices, like J.C. than one of these sacrifices could be not stuffing yourself with fast food. There are exceptions, off course."Hey, Hey, Hey it's fat Albert."

 

I know you did really mean that, I just wanted you to pay attension what you were talking about.

Neph, glad to see no comment on my previous comment about you. Did you the recent on about allowing conseled guns on University campus.

Also now that the assult thing expired, its time to get that AK47 we were all saving up for.

 

AK-47 and the Israeli-designed Uzi, remain banned under a 1989 law that prohibits the importation of such weapons.Everything else is fair game, have fun.

 

Let's not forget about the fact that The US gives other countries "aid" money, billions and billions, and billions of US dollars.

These countries are more than happy to take the money with one hand while flipping us off with the other. I think we should stop sending out all the bs "aid" money to everyone that asks for it. How will you run yourselves without our money?

Want us to come bail you out when you get yourself in some crap that you can't get out of, nah I don't think so.

A natural disaster strikes your country and you need help, I think we'll sit this one out thanks.

Terrorists struck your country? We feel bad for you but we don't want to upset anyone, so we'll stay home.

Your country is run by a tyrant? No we can't help you overrun him. Will we help you by sending weapons, troops, and money to help train and equip your cause? No sorry your on your own.

Have we gotten into things that we shouldn't have? Sure but remember that we took action on something we thought would help people. And we did it with the best of intentions. Noone is right all the time mistakes happen to everyone. Did we think it would help us too? Duh, why would we do it otherwise.

I do not agree with everthing that my country does and I let that be known to my ELECTED officials. That is my right and it can not be taken away because someone doesn't like it. If you have a "free" country then it is in no small part thanks to the US. If not for us Europe would all be speaking one language and it wouldn't be English. How about just a little gratitude?

When has anyone ever helped the US? If you are truely our friends, through thick AND thin then we are with you and there are none more faithful than us.

To the fair weather friends - let them fend for themselves.

By the way, as my nick implies I'm from the State of Michigan in the United States, this is where Moore the moron is from, I live near where he's from, I've met him and he's a pompous a-hole. His movies are facts twisted to fit his own view. There are things in his movies that take place years apart that he makes out to have happened in the same time frame. There are several twists such as this.

If you are not from the US then you have a view of us that is based on what the FREE Media is telling you not facts. In your countries your media is sometimes government censored ours never is. The media is there to make a buck like everyone and sensationalism sells, feel good stories don't. I have lived here all my life except when I wsa in the US Navy and deployed. I go to Detroit, Michigan regularly (at one time the supposed "murder capital" and I have never had a gun drawn on me or seen such happen. I'm not an idiot and I know it does happens but not as often as it's made out to. I have had guns drawn on me in other countries though and it is not a very good feeling.

I own guns, several as a matter of fact, as is my right in MY country and I will not give up my rights to make happy anyone else without the backbone to stand up for themselves.

If we are friends then I'm with you, if not then - good luck.

Nephilim and ScubaPete - I've got this part of the border.

 

Michigan,

Good point. With all of the natural disasters that have hit us, I was trying to think of a single country that offered us aid of any kind, I'm still thinking . . .
I was trying to think of even one country that offered to help us during 911, - I'm still thinking -


THE GUN BAN IS OVER:

Inter-tech 9mm will now make a comeback as the street-sweeper weapon of choice -

If you wish to watch some stock raise, watch that one -


(Boy don't I feel safe now

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Hmmm, there's so much to say and just not enuff patience to do it. Michael Moore is a self imposed, fat assed, loud-mouthed, communistic, liberal who perceives himself to be the next coming of Christ.

Look at his senseless diatribe of an acceptance speech at the Oscars knocking this country and the rights that gave HIM the RIGHT to spew his invective against this great nation who btw, invaded Afghanistan to annilate that son of a bitchin' murderer of innocent men, women, and children! Don't think for one second that he wouldn't do the same in your country if he thought the end justified the means!

I, for one, will NEVER forget 9/11, and I'll NEVER give that motherf**ker Moore the satisfaction of ever watching his polluted drivel he calls a documentary. A mockumentary in drag is closer to the truth.

I'd better stop now.

 

Nephilim, ScubaPete, and Michigan: i may be a little too far from the borders to help with any patrol, but i have enough munitions to be backup should you ever find the need. All the best to you, fellas.
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Auslander,

[bold]if only i was half wolf...[/bold]

Hmmm...Actually my nickname in college was "wolf". :0

Neph,

[bold]I know the feeling.[/bold]

I had a feeling you would.

 

I don't usually weigh in on any issues than thosee involving computers or other electronic bits, but i see a great bit of fear and apprehension from some of you out there , it appears that whenever someone offers a solution that does 'nt jibe with on going media induced opinion , the first response is we hate the french or we hate anyone who does'nt agree with our policies,Some americans are so infused with this psudeo patriotism that for no rational reason than it fuel those fires No matter who our policies hurt in the decision making process , as long as manifest destiny is at the very core of discovery then "GOD BLESS AMERICA AND NOPLACE ELSE", Because thats what we really mean.You ask why do they hate us, hum, let's ask the indian, the viet namese, the slaves, the jews , the muslims. Who know? I've served my country and if need be will do it again ,but hear again lets stop with the b.s.We arew crusaders, its ok nothing feels better than the truth in the morning you sleep better at night .

 

Get real. You can not buy an AK-47. That is a select fire assault weapon. Meaning it can be used in the single fire mode or fully automatic. You can buy an AKS which looks like an AK-47 now tho. It was a stupid piece of legislation to begin with and has now died.

Re: The handgun ban in Canada. Seems to me that shootings in Canada became more fatal when handguns became illegal. After all, high power rifles are more lethal that lower power handguns.

An armed society, is a polite society. You won't try to take advantage when you know that the other person is you firepower equal.

I almost hate to bring this up. Who did the British appeal to (after having banned fiream possesion by the common folk) during WWII? The good old USA.

Why is the Right To Keep And Bear Arms so important? It is to allow the people to ensure that the are not enslaved by their government.

TC

 

SnD Sometimes I wonder what country i'm living in.

 

I do think Europeans do own graditute to America for they helped us while they didn't really had to. This doesn't mean however that Europe has to back up Bush in all his plans. America has the right to defend itself against terrorists, but if you go to war(iraq)you should plan this operation carrefully and know what to do with the country after you captured Sadam. What was Bush his plan? People still die every day in Iraque. With more adequate leadership this could have been prevented. Bush didn't even get a majority in votes. Since America is really divided in Bush/Moore lovers and haters it is hard to say 'we back America up all the way', because who is America?