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FTP/ Networking Question??? Ask Here...

Discussion in 'Xbox - Backup discussion' started by chunkhead, Jun 18, 2007.

  1. irmark88

    irmark88 Member

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    well i don't really know if its PIC or not its already in my comp came in the comp (dell demension 300 (nothin fancy lol)) i don't know a whole lot about computer components so i can't figure out how to install the driver or which kind i'd even need

    i go to add hardware and there's a ? by my NIC driver... but every time i click on a specific driver to install it the comp says it will install it but this driver could possibly make my computer non functioning...

    wtf....
     
  2. chunkhead

    chunkhead Regular member

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    Ahh...

    Ok, now we know what's happening.

    If you go to:

    Start > Control Panel > System > Hardware > Device Manager

    You will get the screen I gave you above with the Network Adapter. Yours will have a little icon next to it!

    You haven't installed the drivers.

    With your PC, you should have gotten a CD\DVD that is for your computer. If you insert that disc, there should be some sort of setup program. Run the driver install.

    Also, don't worry about the warnings, that's just Microsoft whinging that some manufacturer complained about having to pay royalties to them!

     
  3. Tails56

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    Yeah I have a question my router/Modem and my IP addres is 192.168.254.4 and im wondering what should i put on my xbox as an IP address...
    Also im using Speed Stream and heres what i get when im connecting to my xbox.

    [R] Connection failed (Connection closed by client)
    [R] Connecting to My Xbox -> IP=192.168.254.5 PORT=21
    [R] Connected to My Xbox
    [R] Connection failed (Connection lost)
    [R] Delaying for 120 seconds before reconnect attempt #1 I followed

    everything you said but I still get that message no matter how much i keep reseting it
     
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  4. chunkhead

    chunkhead Regular member

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    @ Tails56

    Your modem\router can't be the same IP Address. Also, why are they on the 254.x network?

    I can easily get you back up and running, but first I need to know a few things!

    1) Which configuration is your home network (Refer to the pics at the start of the tutorial)

    2 Using the 'ipconfig /all' command in cmd, can you copy & paste that into here so I can see your current config.

    3 Which dashboard are running on your xbox?
     
  5. Izzy1665

    Izzy1665 Member

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    Chunkhead,

    Much thanks for all the help you provide here for us XBox challenged folks. I have been reading your solutions to others problems over the last couple of days and have tried applying some of those solutions to my own problems yet have no luck due to differences in examples you provide and what I see on my monitor.

    My problem is allowing my XBox and PC to see each other so I can view or access files & folders back and forth. I can do so if I use a crossover cable between the two but I am now using Setup B in your example of setups.

    First of all I am using the following equipment:
    1 PC with onboard NIC
    1 1st Generation XBox1 with XMBC Dash (latest version I believe)
    1 Westell 2200 DSL Modem (Ethernet connected to router)
    1 LinkSys BEFSR41 ver. 4.2 Router
    2 Straight-through Ethernet cables (they are NOT crossover cables) 1 connecting Xbox to Router port 2 and the other connecting PC to router port 1.

    My Router is setup as such:
    [​IMG]

    This is my router's status page.
    [​IMG]

    My Xbox is setup through XMBC network settings as Automatic (DHCP) with grayed out info listed as such:
    IP Address - 192.168.2.101
    Network - 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway - 192.168.2.1
    DNS Server - 192.168.1.254

    XBox access the internet fine as I do have ITunes and weather info as proof.

    I want to be able to watch PC movies through my XBox on TV and/or access my XBox and XBox DVD from my PC.

    My computers TCP/IP settings are:
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]

    I think I have included everything I can to help you understand where I sit in my setup. Hopefully you can use it to help me out.

    Much thanks up front,
    Bob




    What shares or settings I must modify to make them work in harmony is beyond me. My interpretations of your solutions for others has not worked for me either.
     
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  6. chunkhead

    chunkhead Regular member

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    Wow! Great stuff! If only everybody was that efficient...

    Ok, I have a couple of ideas...

    1) Check to see what the Modem is doing, it may be setup as a DHCP server also. You can only have one DHCP on the network.

    2) What is this?

    [​IMG]

    It has the wrong IP Address to be a part of your network!

    3) Try making the Xbox a static address. In a small home network where things don't really change, it's much more stable to manually assign addresses! Also, you may not have done this already, but setup the router to allow traffic from the Xboxs IP address. Also add the PCs one too!
     
  7. Izzy1665

    Izzy1665 Member

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    Awesome response, you have email notification of a reply forwarded to your cell or something?

    I am at work now Chunk but I will check all that out when I get home this afternoon.

    1). I am not sure how to check out the DSL modem settings, its just ON and thats how I use it.

    2.) That image is from my LinkSys router info, status page I think.

    3.) Ok, I think I undestand settingup the static IP but what addy do I use? I admit I am not sure how to set the router up to accept traffic from the XBox and PC.



     
  8. Tails56

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    well if you already know my router/modem is this
    [​IMG]
    which has 4 ethernet ports a usb port and a DSL port


    [​IMG]
    that is my config

    but the dash board im new to that so no im not running any dash board if you can help me with that or how to obtain a dash board tell me.
     
  9. chunkhead

    chunkhead Regular member

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    @ Tails56

    If you browse through my tutorials, it should answer some of your questions.

    You MUST have a modded dash (Evox, UnleashX, XBMC, etc) to connect via FTP!

    Connect the PC and Xbox via the Speedstream. They should now be able to see each other as long as they are on the same network!

    Your Xbox settings (after you install the dash)

    IP: 192.168.254.100
    Subnet: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway:192.168.254.4


     
  10. Izzy1665

    Izzy1665 Member

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    Ok Chunk,

    1) Check to see what the Modem is doing, it may be setup as a DHCP server also. You can only have one DHCP on the network.
    I am not sure how to check out the DSL modem settings on a Westell 2200 so can't help you with an answer there.


    2.) This image is from my LinkSys router info.
    [​IMG]



    3.) I think I understand how to set up a static IP but what addy do I use? I am not sure how to set the router up for accepting traffic to & from the XBox and PC.
     
  11. chunkhead

    chunkhead Regular member

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    They can be any address you like, just as long as they are all on the same network!

    Most home networks use the 192.168.0.x network.

    Basically, without getting technical, as long as the first 3 numbers are the same, the last number only differentiates the connections

    Eg.

    PC IP : 192.168.0.3
    Xbox IP: 192.168.0.5
    Router IP: 192.168.0.2

    The Subnet Mask for all three must be: 255.255.255.0
     
  12. asaucedo

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    i tried all the above and when i try to go online, it says that I need a DNS address. How do I get this?
     
  13. chunkhead

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    Your DNS address will be whatever the PC's DNS is. Type 'ipconfig /all' into "cmd" and it should tell you.
     
  14. Izzy1665

    Izzy1665 Member

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    Alrighty Chunkhead, I have played and played and played and in the end, I still can't get the PC to see the Xbox or vice-versa. FlashFXP will not connect to the Xbox nor can I ping it from the PC.

    I have both the Xbox and the PC set to static IP addresses.

    I slapped this together who give you just about every piece of information I can think of.



    ****
    I am stumped on what I am missing in setting this network up...or maybe it is within the XBMC settings, I am not sure.

    I sure hope someone can help me out by taking a look at what I have here and maybe you can see where I am going wrong.

    I just want to say up front that I apprecate any help anyone can give me.

    I am running a home network setup consisting of:


    1 Westell 2200 DSL Modem (latest firmware)


    [​IMG]

    ***************************************************************

    1 LinkSys BEFSR41 ver. 4.2 (latest firmware)

    * Basic Setup
    Internet Conn. Type Obtain IP Automatically

    Router IP
    Local IP 192.168.2.1
    Subnet 255.255.255.0

    Network Address Server Settings
    Local DHCP Server Enabled
    Start IP Address 192.168.2.100

    [​IMG]

    All other subtabs are default info

    * Security is all default

    * Applications & Gaming
    Port Forward Range
    PC (start)8602 (end)8602 Both Protocols IP 192.168.2.136 Enabled
    Xbox(start)8602 (end)8602 Both Protocols IP 192.168.2.137 Enabled[/b]

    [​IMG]

    All other subtabs are default info

    * Administration
    Everything is default except my new password





    Contrary to what is listed above:

    * My router status page reflects the following info:
    Login Type: DHCP
    Internet IP Address: 192.168.1.97
    Subnet Mask: 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254
    Static DNS1: 192.168.1.254
    Static DNS2: 192.168.1.254
    Static DNS3: 0.0.0.0
    MTU: 1500


    [​IMG]

    ***************************************************************

    1 Homegrown PC with onboard NIC
    IPCONFIG /ALL give me the following:
    DHCP Enabled - NO
    IP Address - 192.168.2.136
    Subnet Mask - 255.255.255.0
    Default Gateway - 192.168.2.1
    DNS Servers - 192.168.1.254

    [​IMG]

    File & Printer sharing is turned on
    Simple File Sharing is turned OFF in Internet Options


    Computer Name - cuddlecare
    Workgroup - WORKGROUP


    [​IMG]


    I have a PC User setup as xbox with password of xbox


    ***************************************************************

    1 modded Xbox
    Executer 2 LITE modchip
    XBMC dash (latest version)
    Manual Config (static)
    IP - 192.168.2.136
    Subnet - 255.255.255.0
    Gateway - 192.168.2.1
    DNS Servers - 192.168.1.254

    Someone elsewhere suggested I leave XMBC dash at Default newtork settings since had MSDash already setup.


    SMB Client
    Username - xbox
    Password - xbox
    Wins-server - left blank
    Workgroup - WORKGROUP
    Show hidden files & folders is checked

    Autodectection
    Xbox Autodetection is checked
    Ask to Connect is checked
    Nickname is xbox
    Send FTP User & Password is checked

    MSDash net settings
    Manual Config (static)
    IP - 192.168.2.137
    Subnet - 255.255.255.0
    Gateway - 192.168.2.1
    DNS Servers - 192.168.1.254
    192.168.1.254

    UnleashX dash
    IP - 192.168.2.136
    Subnet - 255.255.255.0
    Gateway - 192.168.2.1
    DNS Servers - 192.168.1.254


    ****ALL DASHES ALL SET TO SAME NET SETTINGS
    All user names & passwords are xbox & xbox


    ***************************************************************
    2 Straight-through Ethernet cables

    DSL Modem is conected to Linksys Router Internet port
    PC is connected to Linksys router port 1 using straight-through an Ethernet cable and can access internet.
    Xbox is connected to Linksys router port 2 using straight-through an Ethernet cable and can access internet.

    [​IMG]

    ***************************************************************

    I cannot get FTP or SMB Shares to work. I have only tinkered with FTP for a few seconds and spent most of my time on SMB Shares.
    I do have folders on my PC set to share. One is called SharedDocs and the other is access to a spare drive I have called DONOTUSE (D:) with a folder inside it also set to share called NovaLogic (for setup/test purposes).

    All shared folders and drives have xbox listed in the permissions area with FULL Access (for setup/test purposes).


    I believe all may problems lay somewhere within the port forwarding and/or SMB Shares setup but I am obviously too xbox network challenge to figure it out.


    I hope this helps you understand what I have and how to help me fix it.


    Izzy
     
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  15. chunkhead

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    Yep, brilliant!

    Ok, this is what I've gathered from your setup:

    Modem = 192.168.1.254
    Router = 192.168.2.1
    PC = 192.168.2.136
    Xbox = 192.168.2.136


    Ok, firstly, the Xbox has to be different to the PC.
    You may also be having DHCP errors.

    1) Disable DHCP in the router. Chances are that the modem is already doing it for you!
    The modem is on a seperate network to the rest of the LAN.
    For ease of use purposes, we'll change the rest of the LAN to match the modem. Don't forget to save and reboot the router.

    [​IMG]

    2) You should also be able to add "Lan Clients" in your router settings. Add your PC and Xbox addresses.

    3) Change your PC IP Address to 192.168.1.101

    4) Change your Xbox IP Address to 192.168.1.102

    Let me know how you get on.


    Just for reference, I use a similar setup.

    I have an ADSL modem -> D-Link Router\Switch -> PC\Xbox

    Here's a few screenshots.

    My modem settings:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    My Router settings:

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]

    Obviously my setup page differs from yours, but you get the idea!

    ;)
     
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    sorry, nevermind
     
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  17. Izzy1665

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    Only problem Chunk is that when I go from "Open an IP Automatically" to "Static IP", I get a screen with different info that needs to be filled in. I am as lost here as before.

    I so wish I could get you on the phone or better yet, in person...lol :)

    Anyway, here is what I get.

    [​IMG]


    Once this page is tackled, I will pick your brain on the others.
     
  18. chunkhead

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    Ok, I've found your manual online

    What IP Address do you type to access the router? 192.168.2.1? I've noticed that the number has changed since your first pictures...

    It should be 192.168.1.1 by default...

    [​IMG]

    Ok, with that now set, if you make:
    PC IP address = 192.168.1.3
    Xbox Address = 192.168.1.4

    You should get a connection...

    If still no luck, try turning the DHCP off in the router settings too!
     
  19. Izzy1665

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    I think your onto it now. I had troubles in the beginning when I first got the router, a call to Linksys tech help (India) had me changing the IP to 192.168.2.1 and I instantly had internet. I have managed to get both my PC and my Xbox set to static IP's too but neither will see each other still. I understand I must play with forwarding some ports to make that happen. That is my next hurdle.

    I will make the router change to the IP in the morning, wife needs computer right now for an online class test.

    Mucho thanks so far Chunkhead.
     
  20. Izzy1665

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    Between your smarts Chunk and my last brain cell, I think I have it working now.

    I gave up on changing the Linksys BEFSR41(4.2) router addy again and left it alone, I turned DHCP off, open port 21 for FTP, and I changed the router password. Other than that there I made no changes from the default settings.

    Made Router - 196.168.2.1
    Made PC - 192.168.2.2
    Made Xbox - 192.168.2.3

    I am now able to access the Xbox with FlashFXP and transfer some music and pistures over with no problems I will try and build my SMB Shares through the Userdata/sources.xml file once I find a plain-jane .xml editor without all the fancy bells and whistles to confuse me even more.

    Now that I am this far, I look back and see the actual results were simple changes, not sure why I couldn't "simply" do it the first time.

    If I have any more issues, I hope you won't mind if I pick your smarts again.

    Once again, thank you for all the help you provide through the forums to us Xbox/networking challenged people.
     

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