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HD 3850 vs 3870 vs 4650 vs 4670

Discussion in 'Building a new PC' started by fuel_f2f, Sep 25, 2008.

  1. fuel_f2f

    fuel_f2f Regular member

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    Ok time has come for me to finally get a new Vid card... Thing is, I didn't have as much cash as I had hoped and cannot get my hands on a 4850/70 series Card.

    So its down to this. I will be buying 1 of either a 3850/70 or a 4650/70.

    I've not been able to find consistent Benchmark data concerning the 4670. Some benchmark tests I've seen had it losing in FPS to a 3870... Others had it outperforming a 4850... Thats very different results. So, I turn to the great advice of Afterdawn users (I got a feeling sammorris will reply quickly, your always full of great advice man)

    So yea... since all cards are in a close battle for price ($70-120 for good 3800 series and $76-100 for 4600 series) I'm not sure whats best. I'm a little worried seeing a Sapphire 3870 Cost $109 but a Asus/MSI 4670 Card Cost $87... Is this a quick indication that the 4600 series aren't worth much, and that the 3870 is a beefed 3800 series made to outperform low end 4000 series?

    I'm just not sure. Heres links to the cards I am looking at:
    Sapphire 3870: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102752
    Asus 4650: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127384
    MSI 4670: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127383
    ASUS 4670: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121274
     
  2. krj15489

    krj15489 Active member

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    here is a good review of the 4670

    http://techreport.com/articles.x/15559

    if you can i would spend and extra $10 over the 3870 and get an 8800gt. it kills the 4670 in all the tests. the 8800gt and 9800gt are the same so you can compare them in that review i posted.

    3850 < 4670 < 3870 < 8800gt < 4850
     
  3. fuel_f2f

    fuel_f2f Regular member

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    I'm not a fan of Nvidia Cards. But the thing I'm having problems with is that some benchmark tests show the 3870 trouncing the 4670, others show them very close and some show the 4670 beating the 3870 quite well... the results I've seen thus far are so inconsitent I'm not really sure what to think. I'm not a hardcore gamer... Things like HL2 and Portal seem to be the most intense games I run...

    8800GT is like $70 more than a 4670(and about $100 more if I want a better brand)... If I were to go into that price Range I would buy a 4850/70 Card...

    I'm basically wondering if the 4670 and 3870 are that different in performance... on a usual gaming Res of 1280x1024... I don't have high-end needs and don't care about having all settings maxed... But I also want to have the option of playing higher end games with low settings at least... if the 3870 is much better I will but it... if its minimal gains... I'll save the money and drop a bit.
     
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    The HD4670 is smaller, cooler and if anything, has better driver support than the HD3870, so it's my preferred card. The 8800GT is a better card, but if it's going to cost you much more, forget it. Likewise the 9600GSO is a very solid uber-cheap card flattening the budget competition, but the HD4670 would be faster. I haven't kept up with the US/Canadian market with these cards yet - glad to see the newegg canada site is up!
     
  5. fuel_f2f

    fuel_f2f Regular member

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    Yea man... Just checked the prices on there the other day... could get a comp with same or better spec'd on newegg for a decent amount less than I did at tigerdirect... oh well, live and learn.

    Tigerdirect doesn't even offer a 4670, and its cheapest 4850 is like $209.

    The way I see it, if I'm going budget I'll go pretty cheap cause the 4670 will sell in a few months for like 40-50 range likely meaning a loss of like 30-40 bucks whereas if I buy one of those slightly better 100-120 range budget cards they will likely depreciate 60-70 bucks by the same time... Who knows, I might end up dropping in a 4870 when I get my taxes back and hopefully by then the 5000 series will be out dominating the GPU market so the 4800 series would be cheap. I sure hope so.

    PS> I'm very suprised you didn't reply 1st samm :p Thanks for the advice tho. I always trust your words bud.
     
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    fuel_f2f Regular member

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    WOW!!! I never realized the 4670 would perform so well in CF... It would def be a cheap alternative to a single 4850 for sure... though not quite as good, it would be close in frame rates...

    Plus I can buy one now to EASILY fill my particular game list and get a second to play better games later on(especially after the new year when this card will be a major bargain)

    I gotta double check to see if my board supports CF... but I don't think it does...
     
  8. sammorris

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    If it has two PCI express 16x slots and isn't an nvidia chipset, odds are good it'll support crossfire.
     
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    I would take 4670. It is almost with the perfomance of 3850, 8800 but cheaper. Other plus is the lower profile, lower electricity consumption, lower heat. So 4670 is best choise from the four possible.
     
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    fuel_f2f Regular member

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    Sucks for me cause I have 1 PCIe and Nvidia Board... oh well... 4670 is fine... can always upgrade later.
     
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    if you can and if your M/B supports it crossfire the sapphire 4670 they are nice that is my setup and i have no complaints also im not really playing to graphic crazy games either but i feel very comfortable with 2 4670 in crossfire. also if you go that route that the packaging does not include the crossfire bridge.
     

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