Ok, heres the deal. I have made about 50 copies using dvd shrink 3.2. After using Shrink, I use Nero (latest version) to burn. No matter what I do, I cant get an 8x Burn. When I use 3.1 Shrink though, and then Nero, same media etc etc, I get an 8x burn everytime. ARGH! its driving me crazy,..any ideas? thanks a lot guys!