I appreciate the advice. I'll give it a try. If all else fails, there is a little program for css decryption that works wonderfully. It is call dvd43, it free, just do a web search, and will work with any rf programs to allow you to rip away.
It appears that DVDXtreme does not have a bouducon.dll file to patch, so 312RIP will not in it's current state work. I apologise for this. I do not have DVDXtreme so I was working on other people's feedback. (But if anyone wants to donate me a copy... lol) Ok what I will do is make up a dummy file with just enough info in it to be able to patch. That way no copyrights are broken etc. It'll take a while to do and I have other priorities this evening. I'll have a fix by tomorrow night on the website. Regards, Psi