Hi Norm9 Make sure you are using the latest dvdfab - just updated again today - 3.0.2.5. Should handle this one as with the previous 2 versions. AnyDVD is the copy protection remover - it's a driver that runs in the background removing it. CloneDVD is like Shrink but can't handle the copy protection. But if your not going to use it much than you might just want to stick with the free stuff - handle all the newer movies too just a step or 2 more.