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HTR-5730S Volume Question

Discussion in 'Receivers and amplifiers' started by hwebster, Dec 28, 2004.

  1. hwebster

    hwebster Member

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    I recently purchased an HTR-5730 bundle with speakers. I like the unit but I am confused.

    I have 5 speakers and a sub connected. The volume "range" goes from -80 db (80 %) to +16 db (16). so it appears that I am only getting 16% of the potential output to my non-audiophile mind. Is this correct or is there a problem hear? (pun) I would expect to get significantly higher volume than I am..
     
  2. Razz1234

    Razz1234 Guest

    hey there,
    I need to look into this farther but that is how most A/V recievers are. Mine is the same -80 to +16 my last one was -60 to +16. I don't know what the deal is but nothing is wrong with your reciever! Oh it's not a % thing either.

    If anyone knows why they do this, i sure would like to know.
     
  3. hwebster

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    Thanks I also sent Yamaha an email and here is their response...

    This volume is digital not analog which most people are use to. The range is much wider than analog and attenuation starts at -99dB the quietest and + 16db the loudest. What is really seen is 16% but it is actuall 116% Other words it is at maximum volume level.

    Its a digital vs analog thang...H
     
  4. Razz1234

    Razz1234 Guest

    Interesting response....

    It makes a little more sense now... and to let you know something, one sales rep i met at a local store told me that going to "0" is the safest thing... going to the + numbers is acutally "going beyond it's rating".... I wonder if he was right?

    But looking at my manuel for my Denon 3805, it has a range from -80 to +18 (mine actually states 18 not 16)and is rated at 120 watts for each 7 channels, I can't find any type of warning about going into the + numbers...
    So I wonder if an A/V reciever is rated at 100W into 8ohms per channel.. are you getting 100W at "0" or at +16? If it is "0", could you get more if you go into the + numbers?
    I bet that would probably push your reciever and risk an overload.... mine gets pretty load at "0" and I really haven't gone past that, at least not for any long period of time.

    I wonder if you could return an e-mail to Yamaha and ask them about that...

    Ask them....
    Is "0" the where the reciever gets its power rating from?
    Is playing in the + numbers damaging or could it be?

    and ask them, why do other recievers "my Denon 3805" put the loudest attenuation at +18 and not +16?

    It would be cool to hear there answers...
    Russ
     
  5. hwebster

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    DOne. Will post the reply..H
     
  6. vinnhall

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    in responce to the audio questions ay hand; regardless of what is on the dials it is never a safe thing to push any amp or reciever to its max volume setting.. 3/4 bolume if you must is "I feel" the safest.Go too far you'll here the difference.
     
  7. vinnhall

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    in responce to the audio questions at hand; regardless of what is on the dials it is never a safe thing to push any amp or reciever to its max volume setting.. 3/4 volume if you must is "I feel" the safest.Go too far you'll here the difference.
     
  8. vinnhall

    vinnhall Guest

    in responce to the audio questions at hand; regardless of what is on the dials it is never a safe thing to push any amp or reciever to its max volume setting.. 3/4 volume if you must is "I feel" the safest.Go too far you'll hear the difference.
     
  9. hwebster

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    Heres the reply..

    0 is the max or loudest volume level. Playing in the + is OK If you find the the amp is clipping turn the volume down or the distortion will blow your speakers. This applies to all receivers no matter what the brand. I can't speak for Denon other than they increase volume in 1 db increments we do it in 1/2 db increments for better accurate volume level increases.
     
  10. Razz1234

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    Cool...

    Just to let you know, I have the Denon3805 and it increases in 0.5db increments. My old 3801 increased in 1db increments though.
     
  11. ghost640

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    I'm really happy to see this thread, since I've been puzzling over this volume level thing. 0 is pretty darn loud on my system, so I haven't gone past it in terms of the main volume level.

    But I have exceeded 0 in balancing the 5 channels, I have my center channel at +4.5 and surrounds elevated a bit above 0. I am assuming that this is adjusting the balance of volume among the speakers, and that this amount is 'added' (or subtracted for those speakers set to -2.0, etc) to the main volume control.

    But this is speculation on my part - if anyone [bold]really[/bold] knows, set me straight!
     
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  12. Razz1234

    Razz1234 Guest

    ghost,

    you got it! It allows the adjustment because of so many influencing factors.... speaker placement, speaker sensitivity, room design, seating, length of cable.....you get the idea
     

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