I Want to create a Menu on a DVD for 190 .mpg files.

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  1. gbroman

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    Hi.
    I have 190 .mpg music clips and would like to send them to a DVD disc and have a menu whereby any single clip can be chosen to be viewed. . I will probably burn the files onto three DVD-R 4.7GB discs.
    The .mpg files do not need to be altered for them to play in a DVD player as I have sent half of them to a DVD disc and they play, no problem, apart from there not being a menu to use.
    MediaInfo for the files is:
    Format: CDXA/MPEG-PS, Video Codec: MPEG-2; Audio Codec: MPEG-1, Layer 2

    I have CXD3, TMPGEnc DVD Autor3 and DVDFlick. These will create the menu that I wish for but they want to encode the .mpg's into DVD VIDEO_VTS. Unnecessary and also makes the 10GB a 30GB mass.

    Burning the .mpg's straight to disc and have a menu to choose from is what I'm after. I will do it the other way, if I have no other choice.

    Any ideas how I can do this? Let me know, please

    Thanks

    ps: I have just read a post here about GUI to DVD Author and have D-loaded it to see what the possibilities are there.
     
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  2. varnull

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    too many files.. by quite a long way.

    you will have to split across at least 2 disks.. because a vts (video title set) can only have 99 entries (items)

    you can make submenus (try finding a doze program except dvd-styler which will allow that).. which take up one menu entry, and can also have 99 entries.. but you will run out of space well before that.

    What is the running time total of your 190 (4 minute or so?) music files.. I bet it is well over the accepted 3 hour maximum for a dvd.
     
  3. gbroman

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    cheers varnull
    You are absolutely correct about the too many files and the max 99 files per Title-set.. There are 175 files with a total play time of 9:16:30 (hr:min:sec).
    Also, I somehow must have got my figures wrong on the 30GB I mentioned: that will be because I had done a test run with CXD to make a DVD5 (folder) but had expedited the test by not adding the full amount of tracks(99) and had divided 177 files by the number of tracks I had chosen( 25)and mutiplied 8x4. Something like that.(I'm just a nOOb ;)
    I'm amazed to see the 3 CXD projects total 11.94GB (on disc) from the 10GB .mpg folder. Hmmmm........
    I did use CXD3 to make three projects for DVD5 discs with the menu for each compilation. I could have used two DVD9's and had 'Excellent' output but I chose the 3 DVD5 arrangement. I could change it to DVD9. The projects have the following layouts:-

    Disc............Files............Playtime............Size (GB)
    CXD 1:...........59..............3:04:11..............3.95
    CXD 2:...........49..............3:06:14..............4.00
    CXD 3:...........67..............3:06:05..............3.99
    Totals:.........175..............9:16:30.............11.94

    The projects are only 1 to 2 files over the amount that changes the conversion output quality from Excellent to Good. Hence maybe the two DVD9's or one of them and a DVD5. Maybe....

    Last night I set CXD3 to work on the first project, encoding to DVD Video PAL format, burning to disc on completion and not deleting files after a successful burn.
    This morning I have a nice Verbatim DVD5(-R)with menu at the beginning to choose what I want to play. The play moves on to the next track/s afterwards. I could have set it to return to main menu after playing a chosen track, but didn't do so. Both options have their pro's and con's. I'd like both at once :)

    One thing that did sink my boats was that when I played the disc using WMP 11, the visuals/audio are out of sync on some of the tracks. My heart dropped. Playing the disc in VLC and Nero Showtime4 didn't do this, so my heart rose up again. I can only play the VIDEO_TS folder in VLC as I don't get the 'Open with..' option in the drop-down window after the Right click of the VIDEO_TS folder.
    To get it to play in Nero or WMP I open the folder and right click the VIDEO_TS.IFO, this gives me the 'Open with' options. I can choose any player, Nero, VLC, Real Player 11 will only allow me to choose a VOB to play and that will play a track in perfect sync that is 'out of sync' played with WMP11. Real Player doesn't address .IFO's and I can't get at it if I try to open it via the VIDEO_TS folder.
    So WMP sucks!! for anything I have encoded from MPEG-1/2 to DVD PAL. I had a sync prob before but that was due to a faulty source file as transpired.
    Dunno about NTSC, I don't use that format here in New Zealand.
    Long story short, seems good enough to me, so far, now for the acid test, the stand-alone player.
    I'll post back on that later today.
    ................................................................
    Well the out-come of playing the DVD in a stand alone player is favourable except for track # 17; starts off ok but 20 secs in it begins to have a really brief 'stick' point and then the sound goes out of sync up to about 1 plus seconds behind visual. Makes like a static scratch sound when it has that spasm-stick. This happens about two or three times in 15 seconds after the first 'tic'.All of the other tracks are fine ( random choosing of tracks before and after track #17)
    Strange thing is it doesn't do it on my computer when played on any player other than WMP as I said. Played in WMP the audio/visual is out of sync from the start to finish, not that I have watched it entirely,-random checking tracks gives a 100% success at failure.
    Also, the tracks in the CXD1 file are out of sync when played in WMP. Sweet as in any other player. This is why I would rather have just burned the source files to DVD, but, no menu available as I mentioned. I haven't yet tried your suggestion. Will look into it shortly. I found some links to how -to-do-its when I Googled the question.Got stuff like Adobe Encore DVD Author, well that doesn't do anything different to that which I have:- create a Video_TS folder from the whatever it is source file/s.
    Any ideas on why I might be getting this problem? I only seem to get it when I use CXD3, DVDFlick, NCH Video Converter or Power Video Converter to encode from .avi or .mpg (mpeg1/2)to a DVD PAL format, or if I use NCH Vid Converter to encode .avi's(xvid,divx,mp4)to either MPEG-2 or DVD PAL. It's a recent happening but then I haven't been doing that much encoding/transcoding of late, but that which I am doing is getting faulty. ie: converting an .avi(mpg music clip of say 1hour duration)transition from one VOB to the next VOB is not continuous, sound and picture drops out when VOB (a) ends and starts up again with the next VOB in sequence (b),one or so seconds later. And on it goes til all the VOBs have been played and the movie's over.
    Hmmm.....This might call for a new and separate Thread.
    Now I am going to burn projects CXD2 and CXD3 to discs. It can't get much better but there's plenty of room for it to worsen. (titter:)

    Compaq Presario S3010AN (PC)
    250W PSU
    FIC KM266-8235 Mobo
    AMD Athlon XP2000+ 1.67GHz
    1.5GB DDR 333 PC2700 RAM
    WinXP Pro + SP3
    Radeon 9000S Graphics
    Asus DRW 1814BL DL Multi QuieTrack
    WD 80GB EIDE ATA HDD (Master) and 30GB Quantum (Slave)
    UDMA 5 and 80 connector cables on Primary and Secondary IDE Channels
    Verbatim or TDK optical media
    ...........................................
    ps: basically, what I wanted/want is a menu maker program that allows me to send the 175.mpg files to a DVD optic disc in their .mpg format and for there to be a visible menu just like the one I am getting from CXD3, DVDFlick or whatever DVD encoder. The .mpg's are fine, don't go out of sync--blah blah. I just want to burn them to DVD disc/s as they are and have a menu showing and accessing each track on the disc, Converting them causes problems of either major or minor degree. The longer the playtime of each file before it is encoded to DVD_VTS, the more time the movie is out of sync. That easy.

    Also, I do not multi-task when I am importing to HDD, encoding or burning to CD or DVD media discs. I do have Avast 4.8 AV Pro and Comodo Firewall running 24/7 and apart from having these on when I am loading to HDD from off of the net or wherever, I could turn them off when I am encoding/burning because I am not using the net at those times: an incoming update or whatever could cause a fractional'glitch'.
    Computer CPU runs at 98% for burning.I set the burn speed to x4 for DVD's, sometimes the burn is done at x2 or less.
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    I still have the same result with the other two projects as the first: audio out of sync with visual, one second behind the visual when the created VIDEO_TS folder or DVD disc are played in WMP(approx. no less than 1 sec not much more if any), yet the compilation in the CXD folder and the created DVD disc play perfectly in VLC, Nero ShowTime 4 (with DTS), Real Player 11 and on a stand alone DVD player.
    I think there is a problem with either my computer hardware, software or something I can't quite figure out. I have just had a thought, when I am doing the setting in CXD3's, in 'Audio' I have the box ticked to "Convert DTS to AC3 (better compatibility)", CXD3 claims. Would that have anything to do with the problem?
    Anyway, just to finish off, here is the MediaInfo on the files after they have been encoded by CXD3. I only show MediaInfo of one file, they are all the same basically:-
    Name.............Format......Codecs Video.......Audio Codecs
    VTS_03_1.VOB.....MPEG-PS.....MPEG-2 Video.......MPEG-1 Audio Layer 2
    .............VIDEO.........
    ID : 224 (0xE0)
    Format : MPEG Video
    Format version : Version 2
    Format profile : Main@Main
    Format settings, Matrix : Default
    Duration : 1mn 15s
    Bit rate mode : Variable
    Bit rate : 1 774 Kbps
    Nominal bit rate : 9 576 Kbps
    Width : 720 pixels
    Height : 576 pixels
    Display aspect ratio : 4/3
    Frame rate : 25.000 fps
    Standard : PAL
    Colorimetry : 4:2:0
    Scan type : Progressive
    Bits/(Pixel*Frame) : 0.171
    ....................

    ..............AUDIO...........
    ID : 192 (0xC0)
    Format : MPEG Audio
    Format version : Version 1
    Format profile : Layer 2
    Duration : 1mn 15s
    Bit rate mode : Constant
    Bit rate : 224 Kbps
    Channel(s) : 2 channels
    Sampling rate : 44.1 KHz
    Resolution : 16 bits
    Video delay : 26ms
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    tuesday 17th feb 2009, 20:00:00.

    Well I'll be a monkey's antecedent! Problem solved, I've discovered the Missing Link.
    Mucking about with computer and decided to change the display settings because some windows were slightly larger than monitor
    screen (17inch). The resolution settings were 1024x768 pixels and I altered them to 1152x864 pixels. All good
    Couple hours later I decided to play one of the CXD made folders and realised that audio/visual was in sync. So I tried another CXD folder, all good. Next I tried one of the burned DVD discs. Sweet as. So are the other two discs.
    Something I haven't seen for a long time popped up on screen shortly after I inserted the DVD disc into the optical drive: a window with drop-down choices of what I would like to do. Highlighted was 'Play DVD with Windows Media Player': clicked OK and there was an in-sync A/V music clip on display. It hasn't faulted yet.
    I hadn't seen that window of choices for quite some time and only a few days ago wondered about it. Looks like its come out of retirement.
    As for the mention that I made re: sequential VOBs not being connecting smoothly. I have just read a great Thread/post here at AD about creating IFO's if one only has the VOB's; using IFOEdit to do the job and I realised that when I had used TMEPGEnc DVD Author3 for the first and second times to create a DVD with menu, I had more than likely set it to NOT link the clips, probably my attempting to have the menu return on screen after having played a chosen clip. Seems the most probable to my thinking.
    The Excellent Thread for the use of IFOEdit is at this link:
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/744706

    Hmmmm....now why would a screen resolution effect those problems that I was having with WMP?
    Ya wouldn't Adam and Eve it but I can't see any other option than to have to do so, for now.
    :)
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    Last edited: Feb 17, 2009

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