Oh don't take me wrong, 100 bucks is a good portion of my monthly income, so I feel his pain. But not too long ago I remember looking at recorders like this one with 700 price tags on them and thinking maybe some day I will be able to afford a used one or something. The fact that I now own one and it kinda sorta works is really cool to me. But if I had one of the defective ones I would be really pi$$ed too.
Entry level or not, it should work as advertised. A regular DVD should play in the thing. It's like everyone is so used to using Windows we expect things not to work quite right. I've got a lot of cheap hardware. A $200 computer that runs, could run a dot com if I set it up to do so, and still be able to run other things at the same time. I can leave it on 24-7-365/366 and it'll run no complaints. It does not run windows, the os is -free- I can modify it at will, patience/education level. I can see the ilo malfunctioning once in a while, but this thing has not worked error free for a 6 hr period. You should be able to leave it running 24hrs with no problems at room temperature. I have a vcr that non-box trained kittens have decided it would be a good idea to use as litter box that sat in a corner for the better part of a year that will play tellitubbie re-runs all day long with no complains what so ever.
I do agree, you would think if you bought one of these brand new for $100.00 or $500.00 it should work right. And as I said I am not totally satisfied with mine, however, it does seem as though you really got a lemon.
Unfortunately in this world you get what you pay for. For $100 you get a product with so-so parts made in China and assembled by semi literate workers. For $1000 you get a product with quality parts made in the USA and assembled by highly skilled workers in the USA Which product do you think has the higher rate of lemmons? I know which I would rather have, I know which I can actually afford so I buy from wally world and take back the lemmons until I get one that works. Third time was a charm for me with this recorder. The first 2 were junk and didnt work right.
well as i said, I see all sides of the argument, I happened to get a recorder tht worked pretty good out of the box, I actually blame compatibility, and cd quality mor than my ILO. and it is bound to happen with all products. My parents have an emerson dvd recorder that is a bit on the higher end, and they have never been able to finalize a dvd. so it happens with all brands and makes.
I do have to add that the Lite-On5104 still seems to accept any media, finalizes it(at any speed, and the results play fine on stand-alones. I even use the DVD-RW disks for recording tv, and they don't even have to be finalized to play on stand-alones. I guess I'm a believer!
That sounds like a pretty good idea ... return it until I get a good one. I sure feel sorry for the person who picks this pos off the clearance rack.
[ Wathham 41 ] I dont think you will find many electrinic products or their parts, if any, made in the USA especially DVD, TV or most consumer products. reguardless if spending $100 or $1000. I picked up a Magnavox home theater system at a grocery Outlet store for $129. AM, FM, DVD. 100 watt Power amp, aux inputs, 4 speakers and a remote for all. You know what, It may not be a $5000 system but the thing works very well on all functions. The owner said that if doesn't work right within 90 days bring it back for a refund. I really didn't need it but couldn't pass it up. I was going to use it for a xmas present. I think I'll keep it,. Oh its made in china, my ilo 05 is china, the ilo D04 is china, My wife's iron and most kitchen and household appliances, and a considerable number of my tools. Made In China I have Two cars a Buick made in canada a PT Cruiser made in Mexico and a Ford pickup made in Mexico and Canada, that may have a small part of it made in the USA. I did buy a small article for $6.87 AND IT WAS MADE IN THE USA Unfortuately the turm skilled worker is no longer limited to the USA and is now available in many parts of the world. We have priced ourselves out of that market. [ nkm ] If you are going to dub comercial VHS tape, you will most likely run into Macrovision and the 05 could run into trouble as it can not be hacked. Most LiteON units can Including the ilo 04 which is again available at WalMart on line. But I understand that the firmware is different on european units. The manual for both my 04 and 05 list only NTSC. but this has been discussed on the fourms. I don't know about the region change.
[ LCSHG ] I suppose I could have explained what I was trying to say better, I was trying to say that these are the cheapest recorders on the market (to my knowledge) and they will not have the quality and quality control of a high end similar product. Kind of like buying a Yugo or a Porche, they are both cars and the similarity ends there.
I am testing other DVD brands, and along with the maxell dvd+rw 4x, I am finding marginal success with the Imation DVD+RW 4x, though I have to admit, that I have to treat these as DVD+R, that can be erased. If I make a mistake and have to edit the RW, i pretty much have to erase the entire disc and start over (though I would rather have to delete an entire disc and start over than to end up with a bunch of coasters), if I try to delete something and record over what I erased i get a video with skips in it..... I cant explain it, but it seems to be working........... so far.
Figured I owed this thread an update. I went back to walmart and got a ZU. The ZU seems to record, as well as play commercial DVDs. I've only had it a week or 2. The ZU is so different from the MU. They really shouldn't even be in the same box because of their differences. One of the biggest and most annoying differences I've encountered is that the ZU does not have Mo - Fr for scheduled recordings, while the MU did. The ZU doesn't seem to want to delete titles. The MU never had a problem with it - but the downside is it never played commercial dvds. I started for the heck of it a list of the biggest differences I've noticed. http://the-erm.com/zu-mu.php
I am glad you finally got one that is working for you. Mine does what I want it to do (I just record with it and I am always there, no setting up days time etc.) and the only 2 gripes I have are that the audio makes a whining noise while recording and it keeps turning itself on and showing "No Disc" and I have to turn it back off. Has anyone here had any luck calling their customer support about that problem?
Mine has always allowed me to delete titles, however I have noticed a disturbing trend with my ZU, it is getting more difficult to watch newer DVD's, the two most resent of my purchases were "Star Wars Episode III and Robots", they do play eventually, though I have to go through a couple of no disc errors, or freeze ups, and usually opening the tray and closing it again fixes the issue, I am glad however that I kept my low end DVD player , incase things like this happen to often.....
Got a DVDR05 at Wal-Mart. $98. Shoulda kept the )((&^)& receipt. Audio is awful - humming plus warble (slowly changing frequency). Also - I haven't been able to play the DVD's (+RW's) on another player. Wife wants to kill me for making such an awful purchase.
If you still have a box, they'll take it back. I had no receipt, no Styrofoam. Just a box with serial numbers that matched the device. I had to show them my license but that's it. They then let me get an exchange. The second I got was a ZU not an MU. The MU unit - the one I had - is a piece of crap. Erm
Well, I bought one today, and am trying to record with it. I find first that it will not record or recognize a +R or +RW disk. It is happy with -R, I recorded about 20 minutes as a test, and it plays on the Ilo and on my sony. Oops, the 2nd burn I tried, I hit the "open" button rather than "stop". It merrily asked me if I wanted to finalize or not, I did not, but the next time I tried to burn, it says "bad disk" or something. So, now for the third time.... Any suggestions on a recorder that is more user friendly? At this point, I will return it and spend the extra money just to reduce my blood pressure.
Return it and get another one, sometimes it takes a couple of exchanges to get one that works. Mine has a couple of small glitches to it but I have recorded over 50 movies with it and not one bad disc. (KNOCK ON WOOD!)
That sounds like the smart thing to do. If it's not recording +RW then take it back. You have a bad one. If you can afford it get a different brand. I'm still not quite sold on the whole thing. I guess I'm going to keep mine. Something tells me that 50% of all the units that rolled off the line are never going to work. I'm really curious if which model fails the most if it's ZU or MU. In my case the MU was the bad one, and the ZU seems to be working fine - after the firmware upgrade. The MU had more of the features I wanted. Like a-b editing, and M-F recording. It however didn't work, and the ZU it seems to be 100% stable when it comes to recording +R disks. It's frustrating, because disks that I recorded with the MU played fine on my DVD player - when I got a good recording about a 1:10 ratio 1 good for 10 bad. Towards the end the MU didn't even record to new +RW dvds. It however wouldn't play any DVD's. The ZU plays commercial DVDs, just lacks M-F as a recording option. - Even with a firmware upgrade - and disks recorded with it won't play on my DVD. The good news is I was playing around, and it did play an mpeg. So as soon as I get more CDs, I can burn some more mpegs, and test them. Maybe make a few SVCDS. I just can't see why something that's a standard feature for every other tv recording device isn't included in the scheduling.
It almost seems like (from reading these forums) that the MU seem to be the one that fails the most..... I could be wrong. As I have said in my previous posts, My ZU is far from ideal. but it does the job I bought it for. However I do not recomend buy one as a replacement for your DVD players, as mine seems to have trouble playing some commercial DVD's