What's my chances of getting a refund on my Sony +R 50 pack (minus the 2 coasters created by the IloDVDR05? (From Wal-Mart)
Has anyone figured out what the "BYPASS" shown on the led is??? This appears on this unit after I've formatted the disk, but haven't yet recorded. Another thing the book doesn't mention! Thanks
Two questions, one kind of strange: 1. IF I decide, given the thread, to buy either a Cyberhome 1600 or ILO DVDR05, would there be a consensus which would be terrer, given neither may be really okay? 2nd: As I read it, both record DVD's much like a PC records directly, basically transferring the data/songs/avi's, etc. It doesn't "convert" a file to DVD, so would not be able to be played on any standard DVD player. Many of my PC-burned DVD's don't even play on my Samsung, while they do on my son's Sanyo. Is there some software on either machine that records and converts(when folk talk about "authoring"), like the VOB(?) files, so a program can "make" the file into a DVD? If it just "records", why would we expect it to play DVD files, anymore than ave, MPEG, etc? (Or am I missing something completely!?) Thanks. soschief
soschief, I'm far from an expert, but as for your 2nd question, the recording process might be better compared to a VCR. Computers let you do all kinds of things (record input, convert files, etc.). As I understand it, a basic DVD recorder is much like a VCR in that it basically does one thing. It takes "live" incoming video and audio signals, either from a coax connection via the built-in tuner or from audio and video inputs, and records them to a recording media (in this case a DVD instead of a tape). Some DVD recorders may have some other functions, like some editing capabilities (eg. to "delete" sections of the recording), but the basic function is to record the incoming audio and video, like a VCR. You can "convert" a tape to DVD, for example, if you connect a VCR to the DVD recorder, play the tape and record it using the DVD recorder. But the DVD recorder can't convert between different file types or anything like that. As for compatibility, from my limited experience, a DVD recorder attempts to put the recording in the standard DVD format, so I assume that a DVD recorded on a DVD recorder _should_ be playable on DVD players in general, but it doesn't always work out that way for various reasons. At least some of that is probably media compatibility issues of one sort or another, whether it's a player that has trouble reading recordable media, in much the same way that not all CD players can read CD-R or CD-RW media, or issues resulting from the competing DVD media "standards". Hope this helps clear things up a little. James
Thank you, James. I think I follow, but if so, it seems like we are saying something similar. Your analogy to the VCR makes sense, in that the unit (either) records exactly what is fed into it, and that's the way it is when one tries to play it on another unit. For example, my PC has software that gives a choice: 1. record as is, ie, just copy files to disk; 2 Make DVD (but only if files have already been converted to VOB files, etc). If I want to "make a DVD" on my PC, I use "Click to DVD" software that came with PC(Sony Vaio), or a similar one from CuSoft(sp?), but can only be a compatible MPEG file, ready for DVD conversion. If the units we are discussing just copy files(any, or of a certain type), like a VCR would reproduce a movid on a second tape, then the new disk would be a DVD-disk, but not a "DVD" per se, like you would rent/purchase commercially. Is this correct? soschief(Jim)
No, a DVD recorder writes to a DVD in the same format as a pre-recorded DVD and the result should, in theory, be playable in a DVD player (if the media is compatible, etc.). For example, when the DVDR05 is recording it creates "chapters" at certain points (the default is every 5 minutes). They're the same as the chapters on a pre-recorded disk. And once the DVD is complete, if you look at it on a computer you'll see the same directory structure, .VOB files, etc. as you'll find on a pre-recorded DVD. It does not record the input in MPEG or some other format and then convert that to "DVD format" or anything like that. It records directly to the .VOB files, etc. I suppose - And this is just off the top of my head - that that may be part of the reason the process is so fragile. It's not just recording a stream of audio and video data to a single file. It's doing several things at once, updating the various parts that make up a DVD. More opportunities for things to go wrong. James
[bold]No, a DVD recorder writes to a DVD in the same format as a pre-recorded DVD and the result should, in theory, be playable in a DVD player[/bold] NO! NO! NO! Pre-recorded DVDs are in "DVD Video" format, while home-recorded DVDs are in "DVD VR (video recording)" format. What's the difference? Not much, BUT - VR can be stopped, added to, edited, finalized decades after the first recording is put on the disc. DVD Video is a straight-shot one time only burn (like you'd buy from the store), or create using your PC. Most VR discs are not compatible with PC DVD drives, and if the VR disc hasn't been finalized it's not compatible at all. More info and explanations can be found here: http://www.ulead.com/learning/general/video_04_1.htm Ironically enough, only the handful of DVDs I finalized on the ILO-05 can be read as a 'store-bought' DVD on my PC -- yet I can playback everything I've recorded on from three different machines (showing as VR). D.
I appreciate the correction (I hate giving out bad info), although the difference doesn't seem too important in the context of the current discussion. While the format may not be exactly the same as a pre-recorded DVD, it seems to be pretty similar and, AFAICT, should be playable on at least some DVD players. For the record, I've been assuming that we're talking about finalized DVD's only. Until then I assume the compatibility is very limited, similar to a CD that hasn't been finalized. James
I got an ad for this: Lite-On® DVD Recorder—LVW5104, for $150 after $50 rebate. Would this have same problems as the Cyberhome and/or ILO DVDVR05? Here is link: http://www.radioshack.com/product.a...003_003_002_000&product_id=16-3221&AUG05_GUY2 It's at Radioshack, if the link doesn't work.I couldn't get it to canvert into a blue link that can just be "clinked on----have to cut and paste. Jim
What brand of DVD-R or DVD+R are you having success with. I am getting really mixed results... getting really frustrated too with recording so much then having the bad disc message... tech support will not respond... i've tried maxell (about 50/50) sony (50/50) memorex (0) and a few cheap store brands (0)
[bold]What brand of DVD-R or DVD+R are you having success with. I am getting really mixed results... getting really frustrated too with recording so much then having the bad disc message... tech support will not respond... i've tried...[/bold] It doesn't matter what brand of DVDs you use in these ILO05/CyberHome1600 machines -- the baddisc errors are failures INSIDE THE MACHINES THEMSELVES. I tried 10 different brands of DVDs, and now that I'm on my 5th brand of recorder (I'll name it and recommend it soon), I can safely PROMISE you that it's the recorders that are sh*t. Personally, the ILO DVD-Rs worked the best for me on the 05 model, ironic since they're not SUPPOSED to work at all... D.
[bold]I got an ad for this: Lite-On® DVD Recorder—LVW5104, for $150 after $50 rebate. Would this have same problems as the Cyberhome and/or ILO DVDVR05?[/bold] The ILO 05/CyberHome 1600 recorders ARE NOT MADE BY LITE-ON -- that's been mentioned here about 30 times. Lite-On made the ILO-04 model, and if you can get ANY Lite-On DVD recorder for $100-$150 I'd say DO IT! So far my 04 has been running almost eight hours a day for almost two months with limited issues and ZERO bad discs/coasters. ZERO COASTERS. Yes, you read correctly. D.
hey guys got a question here i have the 05 model and i have had no bad disk errors yet(KNOCK ON WOOD) ,however i am having a problem that jusy started a day or two ago. completing recording and finalizing my diskwith about 15-35 min left on the disk. finalizing completes successfully, but it doen't play in any other dvd machine or my ps2, but it will play in my pc. anyone with any idea what might be causing this. thanks in advance guys....or gals (whatever the case may be) "HAVE A NICE DAY" JEFFREYM1
I have a ilo DVDR05zu recorder. Was easy enough to get all setup and even recorded a few things right away to test the quality. Again, everything seemed fine. I did notice a hum when playing back recordings but I have either gotten used to it or it has gone away. So far only old dvd players have rejected burns, most new ones have played just fine. I do have a problem tho and I hope someone can fill me in on whats up. I am using Maxell DVD+RW 4.7GB disks. I can not get anymore than 6 1/2 hours recording on them. I have set the general recording to 8hours and the individual scheduled recording to 8hours and on 3 different disks I can't get more than 6 1/2 hours. I have sent an e-mail to ILO service 2 weeks ago and they still haven't responded. I have several scheduled recordings that require at least 7 1/2 hours. Pushing display shows 475 minutes of recording available, but after 6.5 hours worth and the dvd shuts off, it only shows 412 minutes of total recording and the disk claims to be full. Any help?
Oh yeah.....by not finalizing the disk even though it keeps asking me to when I eject the disk (even though its an RW disk), I have had no problems playing the disk on other people's dvd players...
For an small review of my ILO DVDR05 See http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/227132 On this board. Daveshome
I found a remaining inventory of brand new ILO DVDR04 units in my area (Milwaukee). I have access to about a half dozen of them. If you are interested in still purchasing an ILO DVDR04 model because of the inherent firmware advantages, let me know and I'd be happy to make arrangements to ship one out. I could post a personal BuyItNow eBay auction for you, or we could do a Paypal transaction or some other similar arrangement. I could ship UPS ground to keep costs down. Post or e-mail me if you are interested. -jeff jeff@bisko.com
[bold]I found a remaining inventory of brand new ILO DVDR04 units in my area (Milwaukee)[/bold] Or you could call your store, find out their store number and post it here; that way, anyone interested can contact THEIR nearest Wal-Mart(s) and have them ship from store to store without having to pay you for shipping. Are you sure these are the regular 04 units and not the HD04s? I briefly thought I found some 04s here but they were the $267 HD models...and they're almost identical that's why I ask... D.
No, they are definately the DVDR04 model not with the hard drive. In fact I already bought one of them and may pick up another.
