Intel or AMD?

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hope it as goes well, post back once you have it running and tell us how it runs.

 

if you want DRM go with intel.If you want a well rounded processor go with AMD.

 

Id have to go with AMD especially if its for your gaming needs

 

Here I go again. I just hit the wrong key and went into deep space. I lost the data I was entering. If you see something from me, and it is incomplete, ignore it.
I was replying to DVDBACK23's questions.
Planning is the key to this process. I have built some nice PCs, and I learned something with each one.
The most important considerations are data rate and cooling.
Data rate seems to be broken down into data flowing from memory to the CPU. Using examples to illustrate this is best. For instance, with single channel 512mb pc3200 DDR we can achieve 3.2 gBs (gigabytes per second),
but with the same memory in a daul channel configuration, we can get 6.4 gBs. Hence, the advantage of insisting on daul channel support.
Other data rate considerations involve the FSB. P4 is usually 800 mhz with the Prescott chip, but you can get 1066 mhz if you try hard and spend the money for the extreme edition. AMD socket 939 3500+ has a 2000 mhz front side bus (fsb). This is presumably achieved by the fact that the CPU is directly involved with video and memory management of the data flow. It is called Hyper Transport.
The 939 socket will take 32xx, FX, and the upcoming dual core chips.

All of this in worthless without a case and airflow to keep it going.
Thermaltake makes cases and heat sinks that work well together.
My 3800+ chip has a copper heatpipe sink with a big aluminum fin setup that has a 120 mm fan extracting the heat. It is massive and requires a
little wider case than some little $29.95 case with a 350 watt power supply. Can you imagine the little old lady that buys them??
Just remember this, you are producing substantial heat and you must evacuate it from the CPU and the case. Video, memory, and hard drives get hot too, and they must be in the air flow to function well.
I use a PCI slot squirrel cage fan affair next to my video card. It only costs $10. I use 120 mm fans front and rear to move air without
excessive noise. The power supply is itself important to cool, because their ratings are determined just after they are removed from the freezer. The hotter the supply, the lower the power it produces. Take a look at the website called www.coolerguys.com. They have many intersting products to help cool your rig. If you hate fan noise, use 120 mm fans with the word STEALTH written on them. You will be able to drop the voltage to about 8 volts with fan controls, but you must monitor temperatures. My CPU runs about 49 C with all of this.
All of this heat and cooling is much more imortant when you have SLI video with two cards. Good luck DVDBACK23.

 

Get Intel

 

Man, this guy (Kuqdew) is articulate. Get Intel. That says it all. Cannot argue with that kind of logic. A very good arguement. I am rushing right out to do that and to buy their stock as well. Isn't is funny how some people can say so much in so few words. Give him a dope slap.

 

Which one is better:

Intel Pentium 4 3.0Ghz Or Amd 2800

thx

 

thanx is there any place with real facts? about which one is better:

Intel 3.0 GHZ Or Amd 2800?

 

try http://www23.tomshardware.com/index.html or Google for benchmarks.

 

Reply to stunt2061. You picked a very respectable P4 to compare to a modest AMD. IT IS NO CONTEST FOR ME. I would go with the P4, but I WOULD HAVE TO PAY MORE.
I hate the caps lock key with a passion. Does anyone know how to disable it?

 

Definately get AMD, AMD owns Intel . I've been using AMD since the Duron CPU, and now I have the Athlon 64 3400+ and I love it. Dont just look at the clock speed, new AMD chips have the memory controller integrated inside the CPU which blows up the FSB speed. That's why north bridge is eliminated on AMD Athlon 64 motherboards.

Plus you are comparing a 32 bit CPU to 64 bit CPU, so you are like comparing apples and oranges. If you compare AMD64 to Intel's 64 bit CPU, IA64, AMD still wins because AMD64 is backwards compatible with 32 bit applications where as Intel's isnt.

I have Windows XP Pro 64 Bit Edition and it runs perfectly on my AMD and I can run both 32 and 64 bit programs.

 

Ive got a p4 3.2 never runs hot(even encoding) like amd I think is something to talk about too

 

I don't think heat will be a huge factor as long as you have adequete cooling. I like the option of overclocking with AMD just keep it cool

 

thanx for the info guys ill go with the Intel