Intel P4 vs AMD

tophawk

My Venice core will already take any P4 at 3.4 GHZ in everything but encoding and I'll beat most systems at that or match it or come within seconds of it. Look at it like this, The fastest Gaming CPU is the FX57 which is a San Diego core clocked at 2.8 GHZ. That means that since they both have exactly the same core then the only real difference between the FX57 and the 3700+ is clock speed.

 

I notice that Sophocles has
AMD 64 3500 Plus 2.2 GHZ does that equate approx to an Intel 2.2 or is this a whole diff ball game.
Rather than bother you guys is there somewhere I can read up on this nfo.
Anyway thanks to Sophocles & brobear for responding.
kinda nice in this s*** world that someone does summat for nuthin
Cheers

 

The 2.2 GHZ doesn't equate to a 2.2 P$ the number you look at is the 3500+ that's the equivalent. Now if you look at my specs some more you will notice that my CPU has been overclocked to 2.664 GHZ and that would equate to about a 4400+. I've compared my speeds to a P4 extreme edition running at a 3.7 GHZ and beat it.

And you're welcome.

 

oops.

 

6402

You're replying to two different people. You're replying to Triock and tophawk. One, a 14 year old set a budget, and the other just wanted an opinion of the quality choices he'd made. I know this because I've done it before. LOL

 

So sorry. I'm not paying attention. Bad dog.

 

64026402

Welcome to the I've been there so many times before self support group. LOL

 

In that case.
Tophawk,
Your choice of motherboard is very good. For any chipset the Asus version is the strongest and most reliable over the long haul.
They are rather performance oriented so for a new builder they can be a little daunting in the settings department, but the efforts are worth the trouble.

The 3700+ sounds like an ideal proceesor. Any higher would yield little for the investment. I have heard they run 3.0 ghz with a decent HSF.

The memory should be better to get the best use of the board.
NF4 boards are picky. Corsair XMS seems the best choice for performance.

 

64026402

Solid advice, I'd buy it.

 

You did buy it, kind of.

 

many THANKS for all the comments
I think I will just upgarde the memory and run with it
I understand that Corsair might be a good choice with this spec
Thanks again I am now more confident
:]

 

tophawk

Good luck, let us know how it turns out,

 

Sophocles
Cheers .. will do
It is a November purchase and I am now checking out the prices between two suppliers ( now I know what I am buying :] )
Thanks again

 

Hey guys, the best chip for gaming would be the athlon 64 right? and if not, remember, im on a budget.. and i'm planing on getting the 2.2 athlon 64 with the 1.0 gig fsb. and a gig of ram, what do you think i can overclock that to??? a 2.6??? thanks for the help....
here is the mobo http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127212

I know asus is the best but a bit pricy... if you find a better mobo that is worth the extra price... tell me and send the link...
Thanks,
Triock

 

Im running a epox mobo that is only 80 bucks over at newegg with a 2000 fsb without a problem and all the overclocking you could want. How can ya beat that? Plus many utilities and monthly bios updates.

I got mine oc to 2.5. Anymore than that and the comp wont post. Dont know if the kingston pc2700 is the culprit or just cause I aint upping the cpu voltage. Just leaving it at stock voltage. But other than that...Im content. I think intel sucks and the only reason amd doesnt run their chips at full potential is so they dont get their arse in a crack with intel. ie...sued! Espicially when intel finds out a 300.00 chip is wiping the floor with a 1000 dollar intel extreme edition.

Enough said. So it just leaves it up to us to find the true potential.

:>

 

ozz214

Good for you. It is your memory that's limiting your overclocking to 2.6 GHZ or more. The 2000 MHZ frontside bus isn't really true but it is virtually true. The extended results are taken from dual channel memory, each at 1000 MHZ.

 

Sophocles
just having a little trouble sourcing the memory that you have on your spec I can only find Corsair® 1024Mb TwinX XMS 4000 Pro (2 x 512MB)
Wonder if you could give me chapter and verse on the exact spec on the memory so I can let my supplier locate it
The build now looks like this
Asus A8N-SLI Deluxe
AMD Athlon 64 3700+ San Diego
2 x 1 gig memory Corsair not yet specified
Corsair® 1024Mb TwinX XMS 4000 Pro (2 x 512MB)

4 x 500 Gig SATA Hitachi Deskstar 7200 rpm 8 mb Cache
1 additional IDE 200 MB Maxtor
2 x Pioneer 110 DVD RW
Hauppauge 909 PC Card
Sapphire ATI Radeon X800GT 256 MB DDR3
No floppy (external Sony)
Cheers............

 

tophawk

The memory has been changed a bit, they've added LEDs to it. LOL And the binned it a bit more but the link that I'm given you is what's being rated now and it's pretty hot. It's about $60 more for a pair but oh what a pair. This is the stuff that tomshardware.com and anandtech used for the spec you're looking at. It's a bit better than my memory is.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145594

 

Sophocles
Thanks for the nfo
I'll get right on it
I'll let you know how it goes
u r a *
Cheers

 

tophawk


You better, I can't wait to hear about it.