Intel P4 vs AMD

Problem is, by then they'll no longer be high end!

 

Some things don't come down in price very quickly, even when old tech. Priced a 2MB L2 Cache 3.4GHz P4 Northwood lately? They're still over $700 most of the time. In fact unless one finds a bargain, the 512K version is rather expensive. One gets lucky and finds sales and used items. Even the FX-55 is still selling for $800 or more.

 

Remember when a loaded Pentium Pro Machine with SCSI drives cost $4,800 from Gateway and a Baracude SCSI 9 gig HDD cost over $2,000 back then.

Today's prices are a bargain! <G>

 

LOL Scubabud... you've let everyone know how old you are.

 

Sophcles had an old Northwood at 3.2 ghz. His Venice single core cut his CCE encode times in half. Not exactly what I call keeping up for the P4.

 

For 135 dollars, the 805 Pentium D is a much better deal than any P4.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116001

They have been clocking over 3.5 ghz.

 

Since the operating frequency is 2.66GHz for that CPU, that's one heck of an OC to get it up to 3.5GHz. Is that with nitrogen? It is cheap though.

 

What do you think would be a good Frequency to OC a 3.2 ghz P4?

 

aabbccdd,

There are some high-end processors available for that price now!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103584

How about a 175 Opteron with the Denmark core for $506. $461 for the OEM version. Check Sophocles benchmarks and see what it can do. It's a lot better than some so called "High-End" CPUs!

Or how about an Athlon 64x2 4400+ with the Toledo core for $463!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103546

I certainly wouldn't call either of these "Old Tech"!

Even the lowley??? Pentium D Smithfield 3.0 Dual-Core for socket 775 is on sale for $267 at Newegg!
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819116212
Makes me wish that I had bought a socket 775 MB instead of the 478. But then again, look at all the fun and the learning experience that went with it I would have missed. I'm very pleased with what my 3.0 Prescott will do. I can't wait to get into a Dual-Core AMD and apply some of that knowlege to tweaking it!

Happy Computering,

theonejrs

 

tocool4u
Normally 10% is a good level with a good air cooling system. So, about 3.6GHz should be a stable level for the system, if you have a system that supports the OC.

 

Yea i am thinking about..Can you tell by my specs?

They are in my sig
I have this program called AI Booster...Isn't that a program i can use to OC..Or should i do it in the BIOS

 

I am still waiting to see the specs of the kentsfield intel chip.

3.6 is good place to be. I've had her up to 3.75, and things get a bit weird. But 3.5 or so with good air will keep you solid.
Brobear, Now that i have read a lot of your post, you are not really a grump, but the voice of reason. You do weigh in both sides and give valuable information!!

 

theonejrs ,the AMD is a great deal

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103584

or should i wait fo the FX-62 hummmm lol

will the power supply i have in my sig run the AMD ??

 

aabbccdd,

480 watts is more than enough. I have a 480 watt PS as well and it runs my Intel which is less efficient and more power consuming than the current AMDs. I also have 6 fans + the fan on the video card, a DVD Rom, a DVD burner, a CD burner and my hard drive all running off of it with no power problems what so ever! The bonus is that you won't need so many fans with the AMD and it will run a lot cooler. The 175 Denmark will put you right up there with Sophocles.

By the way, I could have put the Core-Duo in the listing as well but I understand that it isn't much of a chip. Sort of slapped together to compete in the Dual-Core arena. Also they are much slower than the AMDs, even at the same clock speed. Also their FSB is only 866 Mhz. I would buy a 3.4 Northwood or a 3.6 Prescott first and be better off in the process. From what I am able to see, the 3.6 is the best of the Prescotts. Intel also makes a 3.8 Prescott but the 3.6 is the better and faster chip, even with the smaller cache (512)! It just has a lot more headroom as the 3.8 is pretty much at it's limits stock. Most OC forums I've visited recomend the 3.6 over the 3.8 for this reason. A reasonable 10% OC will get you pretty close to 4.0 (3.97) with a minimum of fuss if you have a decent CPU cooler and good memory. I have a friend of mine that runs his 3.6 at 4.14, with no problems. Unfortunayly the 3.6 only seems to be available in socket 775!

Happy Computering,

theonejrs

 

I'm no expert so don't yell at me but I actually heard that you need atleast 500W, especially if you have more than 3 fans and a DVD-R.

This is pertaining to if you have a PCI-Express video card. From what I've read, they tend to draw a lot of power.

 

vspede,

I have 2 120MM, 3 80MM and 1 92MM fans in my case and had no power problems, even with the original 400 watt PS that I started out with! Just to see for myself, I ran all 3 drives at the same time in different windows and watched the voltages in Asusprobe. There was no drop in any of the voltages which is the first hint of not enough wattage. If there was, I would have concluded that I needed a bigger, higher wattage PS. It's been in this configuration for over 8 months, so I think 480 watts is more than enough.

Happy Computering,

theonejrs

 

and its a TruePower480Watt PS which is a very good one so i will go with theonejrs advice BTW guys this is the best thread on aD

 

Ok,I got my CPU PC OC'd at 10% so now it is running at 3.6

What kind of things should i watch for while i am testing out my OC.......Besides my CPU temp

 

smoke coming out of your case lol !!!! and a whining noise or a burnt smell

 

Dam it's 3:30 in the morning and i have to get up at 6........Uhh.

I do more with it later today thanks for the info..I'll check if my Case is smokin