Intel P4 vs AMD

Sophocles,64026402, brobear
thanks alot. i didnt know much about A64 overclocking till now thanks.

 

Sophocles,64026402, brobear
thanks alot. i didnt know much about A64 overclocking till now thanks.

 

Hey whats up?
Ummm i told you what kind of computer i have... Can i overclock it at all through the main screen??

You know through the motherboard.. and not through the hardware ''motherboard''... Sorry if i sound confusing...

Just a question because my dad said that i cant get a different motherboard... Which sucks... But whatever...


Help would be much appreciated.. Thanks,
Triock

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Triock

AMD athlons run pretty hot and overclocking it without an aftermarket heatsink/fan might not be advisable.

 

i had a Athlong XP 2400+ and it ran at 50 C not overclocked... with stock cooling and one system fan.. great system but ran really hot

 

matt5112,
I have a question. What exactly do you call hot? I ran my P4 3.0/800 HT Prescott computer during august and sept. 90F+ most days! It ran 68C under load. More importantly, the case temps. Now that it's cooler I can run at 3.40 MGh. The case temps are a steady 33 to 36C, even when the CPU temps are 65 to 67C. From this I've concluded that the CPU may be hot but the heat ain't sticking around very long. I have 2 120mm and 2 80mm fans. 1 80 is an inlet fan in the window. It's a nice roomy Aluminum 11 bay case. There's also the CPU Cooler and the GPU Cooler on the video card. 6 freekin fans and it still runs hot! I love my computer, it rocks! It's also loud!!! You can hear it in the next room with the doors closed! Next MB will be AMD socket 939 SLI w/cool technology fan/fanless from Asus. Athlon 64x2 4400+, 2GB Corsair XMT, Dual 7800 PCIx16 Video Cards and Dual SATA 10,000 rpm drives in a Raid 0 setting. With the new tech from Intel due out around May and AMD's already prepared response coming out in June, this could mean a drastic cut in the price of the current 64 bit Dual Core CPUs and related hardware. Around mid-summer will probably be a good time to build a new computer. One things for sure, you will either be spending a little or a lot. Depends on what the big boys show us and how good it all works.

theonejrs

 

My old pc was running on an AMD Athlon 64 Dual Core 4200 but I recently upgraded to 2x Intel Xeon 3.6GHz both with 2mb cache and the difference is outstanding in the favour of the all powerful ZEON!




Supermicro X6DA8-G2 Dual Xeon
2x Intel Xeon 3.6GHz 800MHz 2MB cache
16GB Gold Series Gamer Extreme DDR 500Mhz
SLI 2x Gainward GF 7800GTX Ultra 3550PCX XP SLI, 512MB DDR3
4x 500 GB Seagate Barracuda
2x Pioneer DVR-110 MultiRecorder 16x DVD±RW 5X RAM
Creative Soundblaster X-Fi Series Elite Pro
ThermalTake Liquid cooling Aluminum Tower
ThermalTake 680W PurePower

 

"From this I've concluded that the CPU may be hot but the heat ain't sticking around very long"

I'd conclude differently. It seems you've got adequate case ventilation but poor CPU cooling - the heat isn't escaping from your CPU, since the heatsink and/or fan attached is ineffective.

 

my experience with my 1600+ was AWESOME until decided to OC.... it was running fairly hot at at 60C then... it skyrocketed to 80C+ i instantly stopped OCing but... it was already damaged.. the motherboard NB fan stopped too... ive never bought a shuttle board since.

 

thejazman

Which would still be slower than a dual AMD Opteron system @ 2.8 GHz system without overclocking.

Let's talk apples to apples not apples to oranges. You compared two top of the line zeons against a mid range dual core. Trust me there are no Intel configurations that can't be whipped by an equivalent AMD configuration for less money.

My single core Venice 3500 plus out benches the single core 3.6 P4 extreme and it's only running at 2.64 GHZ. Zeons aren't faster than standard Intel P4's of equivalent speeds they're just able to be configured in a dual processor system. A dual core CPU while fast still isn't quite equal to two individual processors in a single system but two opterons would cry out "where are you baby and have your zeons crying back to the opterons, you're my daddy, you're my daddy." LOL

 

To sammorris,

You are absolutely right. I was pretty tired when I wrote that but I can see exactly what you mean. I am running the stock Intel cooler that came with the CPU with the silver based thermal grease. I am open to suggestion as to what to replace it with. I'm not interested in water cooling or anything exotic like that. Just a good quality reasonably priced cpu cooler that will cool! I have a socket 478 3.0 P4 w/800 fsb & Hyper-threading. Any suggestions would greatly be appreciated.

Sincerely,
theonejrs

 

Take a look at Newegg or one of the other suppliers. There's a bunch of heatsink/fan setups better than stock. Watch out though, these can be somewhat bulky. Some stock configurations are cramped. I like the Zalman, but it is on the bulky side, you have to have room to use it.

 

I ran a Zalman on my P4 system. A bulky heatsing/fan can be problem but that's mostly on newer systems because of the location of PCIe slots and memory.

 

I'd be careful though, big coolers can prove a problem with some boards - mine is bowing slightly because of an Arctic Cooling Silent2l, and that's not huge. It doesn't even keep my CPU cool! I think it's just my poor job of applying thermal paste though...

 

I am getting a 2.2 amd 64 with a gig of ram and all that fun stuff.. Can yall tell me how to overclock it???

 

That's what Sophocles has been talking about for some time. Maybe you can get him to repeat the info. I fear I'm not as good as he is in that arena.

 

Ok.. I have no idea.. I know nothing about OC ing.. My dad wont do it ... I think it is because it is 64 bit.. And BTW: can any of yall get me a copy of microsoft xp 64 bit???

And i know about CMOS and all that.. And multipliers.. I just have no clue what they mean, or how to get to them..... Well hey i wont have to feel like crap compared to yall's computer... Thanks's
Triock

BTW: Do yall have a myspace...

 

Just put a really big alarm clock on the top of the computer

There is a lot of info on OCing in this thread if you read back some.

To get specific you need to tell us the board and memory you use.

 

AMD always Wins for me 2 words..

Performance...and...Value

also they dont melt right through your case like intels toasty little numbers

 

Both are good chips for there specific needs.

AMD great chips for gaming and great value and run nice and cool.

Intel great for word processing, Photoshop work, media.

Intel more expensive though and run alot hotter.

If im building a gaming rig ill go AMD

For a client who needs simple office tasks, a dell with a p4 normally does the business