Intel P4 vs AMD

I'm using corsair XMS TWINX2048-3200C2. I have hit higher speeds but if I want to keep a command rate of 1T then this is it. Higher speeds require some sacrifice of memory speeds.

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@brobear

I was kinda hoping that you were thinking 10K RPM drives instead of RAID 0. RAID has it's up's and down's, (I have no RAID setup to test) and relying solely on what I have read from MaxPC, and a few other articles, and people posting bench scores from Guru3D....RAID setups have no real performance advantage over a single drive. MaxPC indicated, that even in some games, a RAID setup was actually slower. However, like I said, it does have it's advantages if needed, such as great backup caps...ranging well into the terabyte range now that we have 500g drives available. I wasn't surprised to hear this, seeing as it's logical to think how can one drive perform less then two drives acting as one, when the system has to take 'time' to write to both drives?

Your upgrade board choice is sweet!!! I am going for the one just below that, (A8N-SLI Premium) as I really don't care to dive too far into SLI x16 configs at the moment until prices on vid cards drop significantly. Two cards alone is a whole other computer!!

TigerDirect is where I purchased the Soyo board. And yes, if you're going even for a single, or dual core CPU...the board you're getting should have all the other bells and whistles, as well as rave reviews!!

I am with you on half of that. I've got some good friends that are testing the betas of Vista, and so far haven't heard anything good from it yet. But, it's a beta...just like all the other OSes were once. Hopefully, without too much bogging the system down...Vista might turn out ok.

 

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Morph416

RAID O works great, how about 10k drives in a RAID.

brobear

The new vista operating system is going to be a drag, it's going to make DVD backups a thing of history.

 

sata 2 are real good in raid o.....i got the image catcher now how do i paste to this site...help...lmao...peace

update try and put in fileshack i get either:

no pornagraphic material is allowed
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I'm thinking keeping with XP for 2006 at least, since there are too many copy protection laws involved, too much system hogging, too much RAM usage and in the first 6 months being microsoft it'll be appallingly buggy, so I'll avoid it until mid 07 probably, when games or software actually use 64-bit and dual-core.

 

sammorris


I don't see anything wrong with sticking with XP Pro for a couple more years. In the meantime I'm building a machine from old parts that I have laying around and I'm going to install Suse linux on it. When I say old parts I mean a Northwood P4 2.8hz CPU overclocked to 3.2 ghz, ASUS P4P800SE board, 2X Corsair CMX512 3200C2. I have an ATI 9500 pro which will do fine since the system is not for gaming, I have a 120 gig western digital and a 80 gig Western digital SATA 150 drive, 430 watt antec power supply ect.

 

Which to be quite honest will do just nicely.

 

It's listed with my system specs it's Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2. I have hit speeds above 2.7 but always as a trade off somewhere else. If you go back further in the thread you'll note that 6402 overclocked an X2-3800 to over 2.65 but at the cost of memory performance.

 

Morph
Sophocles fairly well stated the facts with RAID 0. A set of 10,000 RPM Raptors is the way to go if one can afford it. Except when I want to buy a toy, I can't justify it. On this onld clunker, I'd have to get a card and drives to set up the RAID 0. Then I'd want better memory. Then I'd want to change the CPU. Then I'd want a new mobo so I could tweak the settings... Then... As for the RAID 0, I guess you've been reading the wrong magazines. RAID 0 properly configured is much faster than a single drive, especially for doing video backups. Backups are really CPU and RAM intensive and benefit from the faster handling of files. Sophocles had a setup on one of his systems. He should be able to verify what I'm saying from personal experience.

As for storage, I'm not backing up anything important enough to warrant RAID 1. I'd rather use a couple of 300 GB drives to store 600GB than to have them just mirroring for safety. It's an option on off the shelf PCs now as a safety backup. RAID 0 is also available on top end PCs. It's amazing what's become available from retail the last couple of years. Before those configurations were pretty much in the custom arena.

After the holidays, I may (empahasis on the may) uggrade my current system. The options are a custom board and a new CPU. As Sophocles pointed out, the 2.8 Northwood is becoming dated, though it was one of Intel's better P4s. The other option is just a CPU, as the OEM board has a good chipset in the Intel 875P. The only advantage of the custom board would be for tweaking the settings, but that wouldn't be much of an advantage unless I changed the memory. The only way I could see upping this old system would be to give it a faster processor and save the bucks for later. PCs can become like a black hole if a person doesn't watch out.

I noticed more talk about the new Vista OS. Obviously it's a done deal. The codename used to be Longhorn. Now they've named it and the reasons for the system are becoming apparent. It's not all good for the consumer either. From what I've learned, this thing is a big RAM suckin hawg. Guess Sophocles is seeing some of the same Inof. As he said, it's going to interfere with the users rights, or perceived rights, to use their PC the way they see fit. It will hamper the way backups are done for one. In some cases it will even affect the choice of equipment. The choices will be narrowed and focused on more highend merchandise. More money for the industry? Sammoris said a mouthful. Even if I get a new PC, I suspect I'll still have this one pinned together running XP for some time to come.

 

Yep. XP for now, and I'm also all for RAID0.

 

Nothing that a little liquid nitrogen and a major overclock can't overcome. LOL

 

wasn't the 2800 one of the N2l project bases?

 

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Rugripper
That's the explanation with examples, if you have problems after that, hopefully it is just with the software. Ask Sophocles. LOL I'm going to be busy digging out my canister of liquid nitrogen and fending off frostbite. Looking forward to seeing those benches. they sound interesting.

 

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My point has been made. LOL

 

BTW, brobear all that you need is a case and power supply and a motherboard. Then you could overclock your system using all your current parts.

 

[bold]Did I say those screen captures had to be hosted online, somewhere like imageshack?[/bold] LOL

Thanks for the info Sophocles. But with the cost of the case, mobo, and power supply, it would be cheaper to merely install a higher capacity CPU. I would have to upgrade the memory as well. I have 1GB of decent memory, but not good enough to be OCing with for good results. The 3.4GB Prescott P4s are available at reasonable prices. That's better than I could get out of the Northwood, unless I invest some serious money and nitrogen. If I was going to go that route, I'd build an AMD as you keep telling me I need to do.