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Intel P4 vs AMD

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by brobear, Sep 23, 2005.

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  1. Sophocles

    Sophocles Senior member

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    Hmm! Interesting, all that I can tell you is what I saw when you posted CPU-Z and I made an analysis based on that. Not all memory chips are equal even among a particular make. Have tried each set individually to see if that makes a difference?
     
  2. ScubaBud

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    @ Sophocles

    Great suggestion and I will do that later tonight or tomorrow. I've gone through the bio several times now trying different combinations but no dice. I currently have the timings to 2.5-3-3-6 and it seems fine.

    Thanks for your help. I will do just a couple of sticks at a time and see what happens. :)
     
  3. baltekmi

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    Allof these sissoft sandra results are from sissoft sandr 2005.1.10.63 sr3? and how do you get the results on the forum. I would like to get soe opinuins how my computer is running from you guys?
     
  4. brobear

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    Let's see, with better timing (though not what you expected), and a moderate OC, you're only 590 MB/s ahead of the stock setting on mine with the deplorable locked timing? Hardly worth the time and expense of a new mobo and heatsink/fan combo. Though I noticed your arithmetic score is noticably higher than at 3.4Ghz.

    Or could the problem be that you don't see 2-3-2-6 anywhere in the timing?

    With the ability to change settings, the C2 timing for the memory I have should be 2-3-3-6.
     
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  5. brobear

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    baltekmi
    Earlier in the thread we went over doing captures in detail with theonejrs using screenshots (so the tags could be shown). PM him and see if he remembers what pages it was on or go back and review. I remember helping both theonejrs and rugripper. Theonejrs got the full explanation though, if what little memory I have is still working right.

    The short story is use capture software, use web hosting such as imageshack to put the picture on the net, and use the img tags and syntax {from the message page) to link to the hosted image.
     
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  6. brobear

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    ScubaBud, Sophocles
    Boy, I shouldn't snooze and then put in answers without rechecking the thread. You guys had discussed the topic before I woke up. LOL
     
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  7. baltekmi

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    Brobear...thanks
     
  8. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Dear me, I check this thread every time I can, and usually there's another whole page!
    2-3-2-6 sounds like some pretty fast memory by the way, I've only got 3-3-3-8!
    Do you think that could cause occasional jerks when playing games? Or is 1GB just not enough any more?
     
  9. brobear

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    1GB is not enough anymore if you're using programs that are highly CPU and RAM intensive (encoding and games come to mind). Plus you appear to be using C3 memory; at least that's what the timing indicates; and then there's the timing. ;) So, it looks like you have a combination of things working against you.
     
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  10. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    That and it's £28 elixir RAM... £28 in autumn 2005. Hmmm, why couldn't I have just forked out the extra £30? Mind you, having said that, why didn't I fork out the extra £30 for a decent power supply, I'd be £100 richer due to the lack of the repair bill, and 240GB richer too.
    Still, live and learn. I'm not making that mistake again.
     
  11. baltekmi

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    I hope this does not offend anyone if I did it wrong. I am trying to figure all this on my own. Not to savy on the forum level. Well here are some of my results. from what i am reading more memory will help a lot. any suggestions welcomed
    CPU-Z version 1.32.


    CPU(s)
    Number of CPUs 2 (1 Physical)

    CPU#1 APIC ID = 0
    Name Intel Pentium 4
    Code Name Prescott
    Specification Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.20GHz
    Family / Model / Stepping F 3 4
    Extended Family / Model 0 0
    Package mPGA-478
    Core Stepping D0
    Technology 90 nm
    Supported Instructions Sets MMX, SSE, SSE2, SSE3
    CPU Clock Speed 3417.2 MHz
    Clock multiplier x 16.0
    Front Side Bus Frequency 213.6 MHz
    Bus Speed 854.3 MHz
    L1 Data Cache 16 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
    L1 Trace Cache 12 Kµops, 8-way set associative
    L2 Cache 1024 KBytes, 8-way set associative, 64 Bytes line size
    L2 Speed 3417.2 MHz (Full)
    L2 Location On Chip
    L2 Data Prefetch Logic yes
    L2 Bus Width 256 bits

    CPU#2 APIC ID = 1
    CPU Name Intel Pentium 4 (logical unit)


    Mainboard and chipset
    Motherboard manufacturer http://www.abit.com.tw/
    Motherboard model IC7/IC7-G(Intel i875P-ICH5), 1.0/1.1
    BIOS vendor Phoenix Technologies, LTD
    BIOS revision 6.00 PG
    BIOS release date 12/28/2004
    Chipset Intel i875P rev. A2
    Southbridge Intel 82801EB (ICH5) rev. 02
    Sensor chip Winbond 15
    FSB Select 800 MHz
    Performance Mode enabled
    Graphic Interface AGP
    AGP Status enabled, rev. 3.0
    AGP Data Transfer Rate 8x
    AGP Max Rate 8x
    AGP Side Band Addressing supported, enabled

    Memory
    DRAM Type DDR-SDRAM
    DRAM Size 1024 MBytes
    DRAM Frequency 213.6 MHz
    FSB:DRAM 1:1
    CAS# Latency 2.5 clocks
    RAS# to CAS# 3 clocks
    RAS# Precharge 3 clocks
    Cycle Time (TRAS) 7 clocks
    # of memory modules 2
    Module 0 Enhanced Memories DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes
    Module 1 Enhanced Memories DDR-SDRAM PC3200 - 512 MBytes

    Software
    Windows version Microsoft Windows XP Home Edition Service Pack 2 (Build 2600)
    DirectX version 9.0c
     
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    Baltekmi,

    Brobears' not like that. He genuinely thought that I could help you. If you were sitting right here, I could explain it in about 2 min. Lets try this.

    First you download Screen Grabber Pro. Just type it into any search engine and it will give you sources. Install it! Then do a search for ImageShack. Same thing, download and install. The Screen Grabber will snap a pic of whatever window you have on top. When you have an image you want to post, Go to Image shack and set up your account. Basicly you want to go to upload images and click browse to find an image. Host it and copy the first forums format by highlighting it, right click the mouse and left click copy.

    To put it in your post you paste the copy into your post by right click and then paste. Remove by backspacing, the last [/IMG]. Change the remaining [/IMG] to img and change the last one to small letters as well. Now look down the url line till you see and remove all the other stuff in front of it. When you are done click reply. I know this is a real simplified explaination but it's really that simple. I'll put something in this post doing things just like I said and it should work! Something like this


    [img]http://img47.imageshack.us/img47/6070/xfx31hi.jpg


    TA DA!!! As you can see by my Cat, it works! I actually wrote it as I was making this to send, so if you do things the same way, it should work fine for you too. The reason for the caps and the need to remove them is probably so it can be displayed properly.

    Happy Computering

    theonejrs
     
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  13. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Lol computering, that's a new one!
    Just to add my info on that, I've hosted images just using mspaint and then going straight to imageshack and uploading them, ignoring accounts and additional software.
     
  14. brobear

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    A trial version of CaptureWiz is available at CNet's http://www.download.com/ . That's the one I use. There's others and even freeware. Some images have too much content to upload to imageshack, that's why I like being able to capture and save in multiple formats, including the lower content gif and png. Often I'll just load something on imageshack without opening an acct.
     
  15. brobear

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    baltekmi
    Starting at the top of page 39 and ending at the top of page 41, you'll find all the info needed for doing screen captures and posting them. I thought you said you spent hours reading the whole thread. Now we have to go back to school on reader comprehension. LOL Just yankin yer chain. Had I not wanted to help, I'd have stayed silent. After reviewing that material, if you have questions, just ask.

    I'd forgotten where that material was. If you notice I had to do some of the instructions with captures because the tags are live in text. A photo capture works for explanations though. "1 picture is worth..." ;)

    I also forgot, it wasn't theonejrs that got the $10 explanation, it was rugripper.
     
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  16. ScubaBud

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    Brobear, scratch my question about HT enabled, I know the answer already based on your previous Sandra score.
     
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    funny you should say that about reading comprehension. my 5th grade teacher said the same:)
     
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