Intel vs. AMD

Sam.

It's the circular design that causes the problem. All those little "V"s! Very narrow in the middle of the cooler and get wider as you go out. The slat design like on the Arctic is better because there are no restrictions to the airflow. With the 9500 you can see that the dirt gets trapped at the very base of the V and builds up slowly moving outward. The fan being buried inside the fins even makes it worse as it compresses the crud! I've yet to have to clean the Freezer 7! How long have I had that? I can still see through it with no problem!

I'm folding on both cores at 95% in a 22C room and it's running 45/29C, and that's at 3.71!..I'm happy!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

i am going to have to check out those artic coolers.

 

Baltekmi,

As I didn't have anything else to do at the time and because I was bored silly I tested a brand new Zalman 9500LED against the Arctic Freezer 64 Pro in my D-940. The Freezer 64 cooled about 5C better. I had a Freezer 4 for a customer build so I tested it in the Prescott as well and it too was 5C cooler. A lot of work? Yes but it was sort of fun and gave me something constructive to do. The Artic wins the noise battle as well, as it's much quieter. I just stocked up on a couple of Freezer 64 Pros as Newegg has them for $16.99 (USD)! That makes 2 Freezer 64 Pros for less than the price of 1 9500LED. You do the math!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

wat is the difference between AMD's socket 939 and the new AM2?...aren't they all the same...

 

The AM2 is a newer generation that allows the use of DDR2 memory, and has a couple of other subtle differences, not much though.

 

the 939 has been discontinued now aswell, which leaves little upradability. although am2 offers little or no performance boost if you have a good 939 setup.

for those on a tight budget (just my opinion) 939 is not a bad choice.

 

I still personally prefer 939 over AM2 due to the lower memory latency, but hey that's me. All the newer stuff is coming out on AM2.

 

ya at the beginning of the year i was thinking of buying 4800+ socket 939...but now AM2 is out...its kinda difficult getting 939 4800+...AM2 doesnt hav 4800+...so i decided getting 5000+...and 5200+ is out...and now i need to save even more money...

 

Or overclock a 4600, the choice is yours.

 

GTR35,

That's why I recomended the Opteron 185 as it's faster than any of the others. AMD is playing a numbers game! If you look at the AM2s you will see that the 5200+ is the same speed as the Opteron 185 and the 5000+ is the same speed as the 4800+ in socket 939. For the difference in price I would buy the combination MB/CPU that I recomended to you. The only thing AMD has faster is the FX-60 at 2.8GHz, and it costs a bunch more. If you are willing to spend a bit more you can get lots of really good motherboards in socket 939/DDR400 and use your old stuff.

Here's an example of an Opteron 170 running at 2.7GHz done on an Asus A8NSLI MB with DDR400 Corsair XMS. The 170 is slower than the 185 by a good bit as there's a lot more headroom in an Opty than a 64x2!



Do I hear a sigh? LOL!!! The 185 is the best choice right now if you go AMD, socket 939 and DDR400. The 185 should get pretty close to Conroe numbers without having to break the bank!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

The 5000+ AM2 is only as fast as the 4800+ 939? Even with the extra 200mhz? What happened?

 

Sam,

As far as I know the 4800+ runs at 2.6GHz, the same as the 5000+ and the 5200+. The only faster AMD that I know of is the AM2 FX-62 at 2.8GHz. I could be wrong though. It wouldn't be the first time! LOL!!!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

3800+: 2.0Ghz
4200+,4400+: 2.2Ghz
4600+,4800+: 2.4Ghz
5000+,5200+(FX-60): 2.6Ghz
FX-62 (effectively 5600+): 2.8Ghz
And if you will, FX-74: 3.0Ghz
Not sure about opterons though, not really looked into it.

 

Sam,

That's the point I was trying to make, the Opty 185 in socket 939 is a great buy for it's performance level. According to what I've read on the net, it's at least equal to the FX-60 ($449) in performance and at $100 less ($349), it's a no-brainer for someone wanting a fast AMD to replace a slower single or dual-core CPU! So far I know 2 people that bought at this price. I just hope they are still around at this price when I have the money to spare!

Yes you can get a conroe cheaper but then you have to buy a MB and DDR2 memory, which adds to the overall cost! Right now good quality 939 boards are fairly cheap while the good quality socket 775 boards are on the expensive side.

I almost fell over when I saw the price on the A64 4000+. I just paid $94 and was happy. I don't know if you saw the benches I posted for my roomies but with just a mild 10% OC, it's almost up to FX-57 performance. I wish I still had Sandra 2005 so I could see the difference between it and my ol 3.0 Prescott at 3.94!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

and drum roll please ,that would be me and Kivory666

 

aabbccdd,

Give that man a dollar! Now it only cost $348!! ROFL!!!

Are we there yet???

Grins & Giggles,
theone

 

its going down thurs. so i will be off line a till sat afternoon

 

theonejrs,

I might be a bit of a masochist but I think the pride far outweighs the work

 

Estuansis,

When I can stop laughing long enough to think of a clever response, I will! ROFL!!! It's nice to see folks take pride in what they do! LOL!!

Happy Computering,
theone