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Intel vs. AMD

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by flip218, May 21, 2006.

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  1. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    COngrats crowy, that's looking like at least 5000+ territory, if not FX-60.

    Fihsnerd, if the mobo doesn't have its own graphics chip, it won't boot without a graphics card. Mine doesn't. A test of putting the CPu in a new PC will give us the info we need. However, it does need to be compatible and you need to remove the H/S and thermal compound/pad first!
     
  2. FIHSNERD

    FIHSNERD Guest

    yes, i said that earlier.. :) i pulled out the battery for an hour and a half. plus my dad reset the jumper the second time.. i dono what to do.. BTW: i want wait till conroes are released!!! i am soo getting one.. Sorry AMD!!
    sorry...
    but i am just going to get a amd 64 3800 if the chip is fried, my dad is trying to RMA it to AMD,, but we know that is going to take a while..
     
  3. crowy

    crowy Guest

    Well,looks like 2.85GHZ is where I will stop for now.
    CPU temp was hitting 50-53 degrees celcius @2.90GHZ!!
    CPU voltage @1.73 volts
    Memory voltage @3.2 volts(that impressed me!!)
    Ambient room temp @14 degrees celsius(I bought a thermometer)
    With a tuniq 120 cpu cooler and some top line memory,3.0GHZ is hopefully on the horizon.
     
  4. FIHSNERD

    FIHSNERD Guest

    jeesss thats cold... ... Burrr///
     
  5. crowy

    crowy Guest

    @FIHSNERD,
    1.Make sure that your psu is unplugged when you try to clear the cmos with the jumper.
    2.If you have 2 ram sticks try removing them and put one back in at a time in slot 1.
    3.What exactly happens when you switch the computer on,does it boot at all or not?
     
  6. FIHSNERD

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    O yeah, it boots, but nothing comes up on the screen, and i have 1 stick of ram, Crucial BTW... it is cheap, but not value ram.. and he did not reset the jumper as far as i know, but he said that that would have been easier than taking out the cmos battery..
    i dono what to do.. HELP.. btw: thanx for helping me out..
     
  7. crowy

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    @FIHSNERD,
    Have you got the manual for the mainboard?
    If you have,have a look at the jumper locations and look for the cmos clear jumper.Make sure the psu is unplugged and then remove the jumper from the board.It will probably be a different colour by the way(usally yellow or blue).The jumper will sit over a set of 3 pins but only be making contact with 2 of them(the centre pin and one of the others).Note which pins the jumper is located on then remove it and place it back on the opposite pin along with the centre pin.Leave it there for 3 or 4 seconds then put it back in its original position.Plug your psu back in
    and keep your fingers crossed:)
     
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  9. FIHSNERD

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    That sounds pretty (good about right).. i will do it tomorrow. i am at my aunts house right now.. who has an emachine 3500 which i could have used to test my cpu!!! GRRR... OoOo well, we will see. and my mobo box has the manual, and it has a floppy that came with it.. i dono what is on it.. but i have one.. and do you think that i will even be ab le to find the bios for this crappy mobo.. ??? if it works i will be both of yalls bithcs.. lol like i aint already...
    lol.. thanx for the help
     
  10. crowy

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    @FIHSNERD,
    One more thing,have a listen when the computer starts up to the beep.
    This should be the same as what you used to hear when your computer was running fine.If it isnt (IE: If you used too hear 1 short beep but now hear 2 short beeps or 1 long beep or whatever,there is a problem.)Your mainboard manual should have information on bios beep codes and what they mean.Also, if your board has onboard graphics,remove your graphics card and plug your monitor into the onboard grahics socket, reset the jumper again and see how that goes.
     
  11. sammorris

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    Yeah. There are various different problems that could cause this. 14ÂșC in a room? No wonder it's only running at 50. Heavens above, my room's more than double that, with a deskfan and the window open, and it's only 11:25!
     
  12. PeterG969

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    i pal could madly overlcock his pc.LOL his room temp is not 14 its -35
     
  13. FIHSNERD

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    Peter, Please in a nice way,\" if you have nothing to help us, or indulgue us with, other than your idiosy, please leave, and keep your rasist comments to your self."
     
  14. sammorris

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    Let's keep this thread to valuable contributions.
     
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    So in terms of clock speed, how can you compare AMD and Intel? From what I understand, an Intel running at 3.4Ghz is not as fast as an AMD running at anywhere near the same speed. For example when crowy says he OC's his to 3800+ to 2.8Ghz, what speed would that equate to an Intel? What is the difference, and how do you make relative comparisons? Thanks.
     
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    AMD started naming their product in a way to somewhat equate to Intel. From what i understand the 3800+ AMD equates to a Pentium 3.8
    AMD is usin maybe 2.0 or in my case 2.2Ghz for a "processor speed" equal to Intel running 3.8 - Architecture of the chip allows one to do the same speeds with less work. That is a newbie generalization so experts please dont rip my explanation, just trying to help and let me know how to explain things better next time.
     
  17. FIHSNERD

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    ok their are multiple ways, look at the AMD model number such as an amd 3700.. it would equate to an intel 3.6 to an 3.8. and same with the duel cores.. they are just better in multitasking...
     
  18. FIHSNERD

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    btw guys.. and gals, cross your fingers, my dad is bringing over the chip to test it in the emachine..
     
  19. sammorris

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    Cool. Good luck.
     
  20. FIHSNERD

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    DUDE.. Yes.. it isnt the CPU.. it is the motherboard... YES YES...
    but, i am getting the 1900XT but, where can i find a power connector for it, i am using the 450WT that came with the case.. i think it is called a y collector or somthing.. Thanx,
    and i was thinking asus over msi this time, what do yall think?
     
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