Intel vs. AMD

@tranquash

get a 1650 not the 1600. the 1650pro is a rebadged 1600xt.

a 7600gs is a better card than a 1600pro.

if your not gaming at all i would stay with your 7300 till some cheaper dx10 cards come out as you wont get any benefit from the extra power in either a 1600/1650 or a 7600.

just a thought.

 

Unless you need a card urgently, then getting one about a month before a whole new release (aka x2900 series) is a bad idea.

Whatever you can get now, will be a lot better for the same money once the x2900's are out, that should go for both Nvidia and ATI.

P.S. Basically along the lines of what was already said just before.

 

thank you marsey99 and all. i'll do that. i'll use the one i got and wait a little. you made me think..., with all the people upgradind or wanting to upgrade for vita the prices may tend to maintain or go up a little; probably not a good time to buy one. ;p

Cheers!!!

 

beat me to post BigDK, lol

you're all right, not a good moment.

 

I'll have a very nice 7900GTX with or without EK W-Block or a 6800 GT Extreme with or without W-Block as well for sale very soon, just after I upgrade to an X2900 or 8900 which ever wins out when released.
I'm holding back, but I'm getting very impatient

 

next 12 weeks and they will all be on the shop shelves. top to bottom whole new range.

i cant wait to see how much the price drops on the 8800gtx when ati brings theirs out. but realisticly i will most likly end up with more of a midrange card (86/26 depending who wins that one) seeing as how i dont have a monster screen that needs all that gpu power to give the best picture.

not jealous....honest

 

Why don't you put the PC in a closet with sound proofing and have only the monitor, input devices and peripherals on your side of the door. Now that would be quiet. You could put a "doggy door" in so you can reach through to change media (or just open and close the old fashioned way).

 

Lol if only, i'd still like to be able to see it too!

BigDK: I couldn't agree more. It seems like it's been ages since I decided to buy one.

 

LOL Simple enough, put a camera in the closet with it.

My comment was half serious. A friend of mine has a server in his office complex that was a bit unsightly and noisy, so he put it in a closet in his office.

 

Flashed my bios from 1305 to 1901. The updated bios alone seems to have lowered my mobo temp another 1 degree C from 35 to 34.

I can't decide whether to run everything the way it is currently: multiplier @ 9, fsb @ 355.3mhz, (3.1976ghz), memory @ 444.1mhz and fsb:dram ratio @ 4:5 or change the multiplier to 8 and set the fsb to 400mhz (3.2ghz) and set the memory to 400mhz thus changing the fsb:dram ratio to 1:1.

Any opinions or suggestions?

 

PacMan777,

Love your new sig!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

Thank you. It was a gift from bbmayo.

 

mort, bigdk is probably the best to explain this as im sure hes had a play withose settings too.

i know for fact that my last system worked better in all benchmarks while not running any dividers, but games didnt realy mind and they gave better results from tighter ram timings and a higher cpu frequency. that was with a k8 amd.

i have not had as much time to play with this core 2 duo yet so i dont realy know what it does/doesnt like or what will give the best score in different things.

edit

after thinking that the freezer 7 pro didnt fit right i did some searching and found a post in the anandtech forums via a link on the asus forum by a tech guy from asus. now he states there that for good fitting you need to cut the bottom left corner of the plastic fan mount off to stop it from catching the hsf on the northbridge as is you dont you cant get 100% contact between the cpu and hsf and the force on the nb hsf can also reduce its contact and lowwer its cooling ability too.

so i have and it seems to have done the job. the base of the 7 pro looks to sit correctly and it is not in contact with the nb hsf.

i also used this as a good excuse to refitt the nb hsf too, man it was a mess under it but i cleaned it up and refitted it too, now my temps.

now i stopped using everest for my temps as im not sure my chipset is supprted by it and some of the readings it gave could not of been right. so acording to pc prode im now getting,

31c cpu
34c mobo
25c inturnal case

still running 3.0ghz @1.4v these are 10 mins after playing bf2142 for half an hour, as i type this the cpu has dropped again now to 30c.

@sam
could this be why you havent got above 2.7?

 

nvidia news

support for 6 new cards in its latest forcware for vista,

NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0191.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX"
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0193.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS"
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_0194.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8800 Ultra"
NVIDIA_G80.DEV_019E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 4600"
NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0400.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS"
NVIDIA_G84.DEV_0402.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GT"
NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0421.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8500 GT"
NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0422.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8400 GS"
NVIDIA_G86.DEV_0423.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 8300 GS"

http://www.vr-zone.com/?i=4727

 

For once, it's nvidia that are late...

 

oem r600

what does it look like?


note oem only, retail will not be this length (12.4")

 

It certainly looks like some sort of tool me thinks!

 

i think people might need that bahco to get a oem model into their case.


it seems that the retail version will be a more modest 9.6"

 

I think the card will come with both the saw to cut the case and the blower to clean up.
Total retail price for the lot £800 or £1200 for the top end cross-fire

 

roflmao

the retail one we will be able to buy isnt much bigger than a 88 so its more of a headline grabber with the length of the oem one(i think that they need the bigger cooler for low air flow cases, dell + alien)

@bigdk and sam

have you tried to see how much lower than 1.25v (at stock clocks)you can get your 4300 and it still be stable?

right now i have mine set at 1.0v and it seems stable, bios wasnt happy about it but i hit f1 and it booted first time, i only ask as i was looking around and i have read alot about vdroop on this mobo. now after checking what its set to in the bios and watching how it does whilst under full load and idle i was surprised.

if i set it to 1.25 in the bios it will then read (bios, cpuz and speedfan) as 1.3 but under full load (orthos) it will drop to 1.25 (as i set it). now i havent got a multi meter to test it onboard but i am a bit confused.

right now its set to 1.0 and its showing as 1.07 but under full load it drops to 1.0 now i was wondering if you think that the latest bios has started to overvolt the vcore to counter the vdroop under full load.

sam i would be interesred to see your findings as we have almost the same setup.

thanks guys.