Intel vs. AMD

daamit (amd/ati) have changed the prefix on the next gen of cards, it seems they are going to be hd-xxxx-pro/xtx/xtx2. the thing is as with everything at this time all the info has been leaked from under a nda so it could all be bs yet.

some people are saying that the top cards will be 2800 so they can later release a 2900, some are saying its going to be the 2900 off the bat. there was benches showing them going 10% over the 88gtx now more have appeared since showing the opposit for dx9 based stuff but they then go on to show them being better than the 88gtx in the dx10 crysis demo. truth is those that know something arent allowed to say and we will have to wait till next month at the earliest it seems.

we should start seeing some solid reviews of the 8600gts this week as they are now on sale here, any one like to hazard a guess as to its performance point? my moneys in and around the 7950's but with its dx10 goodies as the sweetener.

 

Even if the card is a bit faster in DX10, to have waited an unnecessary, well it will be 6 months, paid more, and to use more power, for a slower graphics card is just nuts. If that's true I'm getting an nVidia card, that's a real poor showing.

PCI-X was a high bandwidth version of the standard PCI slot, they used a while back for things like High bandwidth network cards.

 

well it will depend on your luck with the cpu you get but if your using your ballistix ram i would say 2.7/3ghz plus whaterver you can oc your ram too. you will need to get a oc friendly mobo too, but you already have one in mind i would guess

edit

some 8600gts dx9 comparisons.






not bad realy, dx10 for £150.

 

I wouldn't recommend the E4300 over the E6600.
The prices of the E6600 have come down so they are only £70 more than the E4300.
If I run both chips at 3.6 GHz then the difference in performance is still in favour of the E6600.
I would still not recommend the E4300 over the newer E6320 or E6420, even with the lower mutlipliers that they have, unless you are looking at producing benchmark scores for CPU speed, the extra cache would still make the E6000 series a better bet for real world applications.
It still looks as though £4£ to best bet out of the current range is the E6600 CPU as it gives the best ratio of clock speed and cache out of any of the CPUs.

As Pacman has said already, it doesn't matter what CPU you get if the other components aren't matched to the intended result.

 

as much as it pains me to say mine isnt the best in the world (lol) if my budget had allowed i would of gone for one with 4mb of cache. as it was the £70 extra almost paid for my mobo.

 

Whereas mine wasn't even originally intended for my PC, it was just a little tinkering experiment, but it ended up in my PC and could still be considered an upgrade.

 

Hey guys i found a combo at tigerdirect let me know if this is a good mobo to go with. thanks in advance
Asus P5N32-E SLI NVIDIA Socket 775 ATX Motherboard and an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz OEM Processor
Or this one:

EVGA nForce 680i SLI NVIDIA Socket 775 ATX Motherboard with an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 2.40GHz Processor

 

Have you compared how much of a reduction that is off the normal cost of the components? The 680 boards are good, but they're expensive.

 

if they are about the same price go for the evga, if not get the p5n32 as it is the same chipset.

both will oc the nuts off that cpu.

edit

is it the p5n32esli or the p5n32esli plus?

the plus is the better of the 2 and fixed some issues the none plus has.

 

Well, the way Ati is going I'm saying screw it. 8800GTX, here I COME

My system so far.


*Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 Conroe 2.4GHz 4M shared L2 Cache LGA 775*
Gigabyte GA-965P-S3 Socket LGA775(got it with intent to upgrade to C2D)
2 x 1GB Patriot Signature DDR2 667(Great for overclocking)
Coolermaster Centurion 5 Case 2 x 120mm Fans 2 x 80mm Fans
*EVGA GeForce 8800GTX 768MB 384-bit GDDR3*


I'm leaving my Ballistix in the AMD build. I'm not re-tweaking all my stuff to the current settings

Anyone have any suggestions for a PSU? I'm looking at the 750W Silverstone or the Thermaltake Toughpower.

 

The Toughpower's cheap, reliable, and quiet as long as you have your PC's airflow routes setup correctly, Plus it puts out ludicrously high wattages. 750W is around the £70 mark, and they now go up to 1200W!

 

1200W... WOW!!!

I'm thinking that it was a decent first choice. I'm gettin' it.

Edit:

Parts I'm ordering:

E6600
EVGA 8800GTX
Thermaltake Toughpower 750W
Seagate Barracuda 320GB SATA 3.0GB/s

Full price, $1183.00(HUGE purchase!!!)

Any suggestions or improvements?

 

sorry took so long was working. Yes im going to get the evga mobo with the E6600 at $470 USD

 

$1183? At least parts where you live are cheap. Here that'd set you back about £700 (near $1400). It's usually much worse than that. My X2 PC when new cost me £1250 ($2450).

 

You UK folk can move to America and use newegg.com like us Americans lol.

VERY cheap there and always great customer service and lightning quick shipping

Sound good?(I'll answer when I get back from grocery shopping)

 

ouch that hurts my total build will be about 1300 USD
Ultra TEC cooler
Ultra Aluminus case w/PSU 700W
Corsair PC800 2gig
western hdd 250gb
lite-on dvd burner
XFX GeForce 7600 GT
cable and fans

 

Hmm, no thanks. I'll stick to a slightly cooler climate, and erm, a few other things.

A TEC? Interesting choice...

 

i dont use my pc for gaming just to work
TEC well its a good tech piece and since it only turns on when now when needed dont have to worry bout condensation
Cooler Enviroment?
What do you mean?

 

Thermoelectric coolers just don't seem to have caught on like other methods, efficiency and all that.

 

Well what do you recommend 2 of the top options please
this will be my second build but first time overclocking
give me your opinions it might even be cheaper since the tec is about $130 USD