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Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by flip218, May 21, 2006.

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  1. FIHSNERD

    FIHSNERD Guest

    is their going to be a different spot to put the extra 4 pin.. what is the extra 4 pin thing plugged into?? and i can just plug the 20+4 into the mobo... but what happens if it has one of the things that this msi did??
     
  2. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Well what's that? I'm no expert on 24 pin connectors because my current setup uses 20+4 separately, which I use. I would have thought you place the 4 pin at the end of the ATX, but maybe not, I don't know.
     
  3. FIHSNERD

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    thanx any ways... i dono..
     
  4. Estuansis

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    @tokijin,

    No, it's not modded. Not anymore anyway. Had to get a new hard drive after I installed Linux using a glitch in the Mechassault original disk. It was fun but right about then my Dad picked me up Halo 2:p

    Sorry to interrupt you guys! Carry on with your nonsensical babble:D
     
  5. crowy

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    @FIHSNERD,
    There are 20-24 pin adapters available for around $3.
    ALL mobo manufacturers recommend 24-pin native ATX for their newer mobos and warn against using adapters as voltage spikes and stability problems can occur.The extra 4 traces feed the PCI-e slot the Northbridge and memory.I'm not sure what power supply you have with regards to voltages and amps.Have a look if your not sure.If you plan to overclock you may find the psu will let you down as the extra current needed if you up the cpu/memory/chipset voltages will be to much.
    Today’s computers, especially the AMD A64’s and the latest Intel P4’s stress the +12V rail the most, requiring far more amperage than was originally called for in the original ATX spec for the +12V rail.
    Have a look here and fill in all the necessary information.You should then have some idea if your psu is suitable.If you find your board is unstable if you do start tweaking things(especially if your only raising voltages by .1 - .5 volts) your psu would have to be at the top of the list as a suspect.Anyway go here and see how you go:

    http://www.extreme.outervision.com/psucalculator.jsp
     
  6. sammorris

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    Nonsensical babble? Charming. Yep, best PSU calculator of the lot. I'd avoid using an adapter for PCI express, but you know, some people do, some people don't.
     
  7. crowy

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    Thats it,
    check to see if your psu falls within specs for your setup,if it does,
    spend the $3 and buy the adapter.If all is good,your finished.If random shutdowns start occuring then time to upgrade that power supply.
     
  8. FIHSNERD

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    got to have the money first..
    yall dont have any interjections about a pci-e adaptor..
    2 molex connectors into the 1 pci-e adaptor..
    and i am going to try and find a cheap power supply..
    and how can i tell if it has 12 volt rails... ?
     
  9. FIHSNERD

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    i have a 19" crt monitor... not the best.. but it works. and i wanted to know if it is worth getting a lower grade video card to get a lcd with a dvi port...
    somthing like a 17" and a 7900GT?
     
  10. FIHSNERD

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    Estuansis, either post on topic things or don't post at all. putting in that comment "Carry on with your nonsensical babble" was uncalled for & if i see that again you'll not like the results!!
     
  12. sammorris

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    No you're not. I tried to find a cheap power supply, found one, used it and killed off a fair few components. It's NEVER worth the hassle.
    Lol I have a 19" CRT too, but since it's a viewsonic Graphics series it's better than almost any LCD monitor out there. What other monitors do 2048x1536 with a <1ms response time for £150? Good reviews on that PSU, but even so, I wouldn't risk it. I'm like the third guy down, except without the noises. A silent, subtle yet brutal wave of destruction. Case looks nice though.
     
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    sammorris,

    I just installed a 24 pin power supply on a 20 pin MB. This was a Demon Silver Chrome 480 watt PS. You can break off the extra 4 pins or, as i did in this case, just let the extras hang over the end of the MB plug. Just line up the little plastic lock tab and plug it in. The male plug has a split where you can break it off that slips over the plastic guide.

    BTW. I bought an Aspire 500 watt (have to change my sig) dual 12v rail PS for around $40.00 on sale at Newegg and it works just fine. The Powmax Demon Silver Chrome 480w was even cheaper and it's been in my prescott since day one with no problems. Both give solid stable voltages and will even exceed the wattage limits during a load test before shutting down. I know because I load tested both of them. Lately I've seen a few people with PS issues, I personally have had no problems with low priced power supplys. While they usually don't have all the bells and whistles of the more expensive ones, they are far from junk. My Demon ran all last summer without benefit of air conditioning in temps as high as 34C with no problems.

    Happy Computering,
    theonejrs
     
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  14. FIHSNERD

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    so i can saftely say that, i need a new power supply, and will my system even work with just 20 pins plugged in?
     
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    Video lag is much dependent on the game. That monitor (which is about the best value monitor in the world considering its specs and performance) will display 1600x1200. Whilst that GPU will run Unreal Tournament 2004 games with 32 people in them at a playable 50 frames per second, in later games such as Age of Empires 3, you're limited to 1024x768, and that's not even maximum detail. If it's all you can afford, then it's still a very good value card, but the 1800 version is a lot better and is a better companion with a 20" monitor.
     
  17. FIHSNERD

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    i have 400.00 to spend at july 20 or soo.. but i can problably get extra allowance... advance in allowance for a couple weeks.. i wouldent push 80.00.. but that is the best i can do.. but basicly, games will look like crap because of the crappy video card?

    thanx,
    triock
     
  18. FIHSNERD

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    and yes, thats all i can afford, because i dont have agp, and i dont have enough to go to the 1800XT..
     
  19. FIHSNERD

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    i can get the 19" and the 1800XT after 75.00 off and 30.00 mail in rebate for like... 480.00... but thats if it is even their in july..
     
  20. FIHSNERD

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    and so should i go with the 19" or the 20"? i dont care.. i jst want it to last.. and look GOOD... i care more about the screen size and frames than the quality.. so lowest settings for me?
     
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