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Intel vs. AMD

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by flip218, May 21, 2006.

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  1. PacMan777

    PacMan777 Regular member

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    Mind boggling... isn't it? LOL
     
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    BigDK,
    Where's the chains to tie it to the desk? What altitude does it fly at? LOL!!! All jokes aside, that's a beauty!

    Best Regards,
    theone
     
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    Cheers for the feedback.

    It's taking quite a while to get it together, but I'm determined to get it right first time around.

    Had my first setback today, my EK chipset waterblock suffered a crack in the acrylic when I was tightening the barb.
    Time to order another one, and to fix this one up with LSX until it arrives.
     
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    PacMan777,
    After reading this, I have to seriously question what I was told by Colin at Arctic Silver. I can't even begin to understand why! I owe you an appology.

    I also looked up the instructions for applying it and they are virtually the same for both the AS5 and the Ceramique. He indicated that the application of AS5 is exactly as pictured but was way off base with the Ceramique. While I don't find their published method to be particularly effective and I do use a different method taught me by some of the members here and at DVDHounds, I just can't understand why he said those things. He's supposed to be the Manager and I'm at a total loss as to why he did it, and I'm sorry! Apparently nothing he said was true! ????????????

    Sincerely,
    Russ
     
  6. PacMan777

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    No need to apologize. You do need to cross check your material though, even when supplied by a supposedly reliable source. I think what Colin was trying to get across was that Ceramique was safer for novice builders who aren't competent enough to apply the AS5 without getting it near electrical paths of the PCB. Beginners can squeeze a gob of the Ceramique on and let it run all over the place without causing problems. For those who know how to do the job properly, it is just as easy to use the AS5 with its faster curing time and slightly better heat conduction.

    As for myself, I wouldn't want a large excess of ceramique to ooze out on my mobo (a given with Colin's gob application). I'm not normally a neat freak, but when it comes to a mobo I qualify.
     
  7. marsey99

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    some hd2600xt porn for you :)

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  8. sammorris

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    All well and sexy, but I'm more interested in the 2800/2900, in particular the XTX model. It's the cliche R600 product, and where all the glory has been going, but if it ever gets released, it's what I'll be buying.
     
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    well sam if the rumors are to be belived your bank account should be around £350 lighter in the next few of weeks. most seem to think that they will be out next month. wether this means a paper launch or realy on the shelves tho, who knows.

    i find it interesting that this, unlike the 8600gts, has no pcie power connector.
     
  10. sammorris

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    Lol and the 2900 will have two, what a difference! I'd like that date to be true, I really would, but fact is, what proof have you seen that it will be released this year, let alone next month? All I've been able to find is rumours and speculation, if we still don't knoww what the final version will be called for certain, it can't be just around the corner, if the 8900 series gets released first, that's probably what I'll buy. nVidia have made strides in the power consumption and noise departments over the years, and they're now well ahead of ATi, especially if what we've seen of these specs is true. I've spent quite a long time and a lot of money quietening my PC down, with 24W of power driving the fan alone, the X2900 is going to have to come with a yellow hazard sticker, and I don't fancy starting to mess with water cooling for the sake of a graphics card.
     
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    its sad but true, your right. we are just going off speculation. a may release date has been widly reported now tho for some time and it has to root from somthing, a deadline sombody somwhere has set but your right, right now it might aswell be next year as nvidia are stealing quite a lead on them.

    as much sense as it would make to me for the first high end cards to be named 28 and then add the 29 series later in the life of the 2xxx's sense is not something they seem to use. what ever it is they call it i see them needing somthing special as the 8800's already have a extensive range which they have now plumped up with the low to mid range cards, does anyone else expect a 8600gtx soon after the 2600 is out too? plus they must be working on the second gen of dx10 cards as we speak.

    i think if there was more games to make the most of dx10 it could of been almost suicide for ati. as it is they are on the edge of fashionably late for the party.

    if there were games needing it (dx10) right now i would be real tempted by this.
    http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=575782
     
  12. sammorris

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    Don't think so, I don't recall there being a 7600GTX.
     
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    Sam,
    As of March 8th. The picture is the 7900GTX but the 7600GTX looks identical and is reviewed it this article. I started at page 2 for the pic! That's some heat sink!

    http://techreport.com/reviews/2006q1/geforce-7600-7900/index.x?pg=2

    Happy Computering,
    theone
     
  14. sammorris

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    That article only tells me what a 7900GTX looks like, and I know what it looks like. It reviews a 7600GT, 7900GT and 7900GTX, but no 7600GTX... As far as I know, what was rumoured to be the 7600GTX ended up as the 7900GS.
     
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    i dont see where a 7600gtx was mentioned?

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    im guessing its in response to my hope/guess for them to bring out the 8600gtx. this is just based on the current rankings which now sees the gts greater than a gt leaving the gtx as the top modle and an available prefix for a higher specced 8600.
     
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    The point I was making was that there wasn't a 7600GTX, so why would there be an 8600GTX? I'm not saying it won't happen, but we only got the GS and GT last time, and we've got the GT and GTS this time, so GTX? I think that's reserved for the highest level product, i.e. the 8800, and possibly 8900.
     
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    Sam & marsey99,
    If you saw this post before editing, disregard. I got 7600 and 7800 crossed up!
     
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    sam i see your logic, i just dont think the 8600gts will offer good enough performance for it to be king of the mid range.

    i cant see the 32 stream proc being enough and im sure ati will not want another x1600 on their hands. i hope that ati are using this time to polish the hd2600 so it forces nvidia to do somthing.

    i thought the prefix at the top of the tree was the gx2? i know that may have been a 1 off.
     
  19. sammorris

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    Who knows, the X2000 series is STILL not close to release.
     
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    Got my build Friday. Built it Saturday night.

    Lightning fast! I've already taken the E6600 to a nice healthy 3.0GHz but I'm going to take it back down to 2.8GHz as the AS5 cures and settles. I'm going to be putting up Sandra benchmarks in a few weeks.

    The 8800GTX runs well and without heat problems. It was a bit tight getting it into the case but it clears everything alright after it gets in place.

    The PSU is nice and stable though I wouldn't SLi another 8800GTX with it.

    I haven't recorded any FPS but I can now run Oblivion at MAX settings at 1600 x 1200 with 16x AF. It plays super smooth and I have never seen such a beautiful game :)

    EDIT:

    As to the earlier question on RAM speeds. I Chose DDR2 667 because it leaves me with a nice ceiling before I have to make any ratio adjustments. I have been successful in taking this stuff to DDR2 800+. Patriot Signature has proven itself to me time and time again.

    I suppose it's actually just a matter of personal preference.
     
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