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Intel vs. AMD

Discussion in 'PC hardware help' started by flip218, May 21, 2006.

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  1. FIHSNERD

    FIHSNERD Guest

    NONE.. get the 3800 2.4 for 150.00.. it is a vinice... and it is dirt cheap.. !!
    but get the AM2..be prepared for 2nd generation.. :)
     
  2. rick5446

    rick5446 Guest

    FIHSNERD..Been reading up on the AM2BRD & all data so far that I've read says 939 WILL OUT PERFORM..But I don't really know.It uses diff kind mem does'nt[I think]
    But I'll look into it some more
    So many dif choices,so many dif pros,cons.Going F#$king CRAZY!!!!
     
  3. crowy

    crowy Guest

    @FIHSNERD,
    Going to see the shuttle launch?
    You lucky SOB!!!
    Maybe post a couple of pics if you have some?

    @sammorris,
    GO ON!!You know you want to:)
     
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  4. ChrisC586

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    Wheres everybody picking up the 3800 For $150.00. I'm still fining the best price at $280.00.At $150.00 I'll put another comp together. Chris
     
  5. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    Rick5446,

    Here you go Bro!

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103631

    There is no venice core for the 3800+ in socket AM2, but for $145 and change for the Orleans Core.... A new MB & DDR2 memory will be needed, but it should keep you going for a few years. You could then upgrade the processor to a Dual-Core and be right in the game. The 3800 Venice is a socket 939, which is on the way out!

    If it was me doing a build right now I would opt for the socket 939 as you could use your old PC3200 memory and the prices of socket 939 motherboards are coming down and you can still go Dual-Core in the future. For right now until the memory folks get their act together on DDR2, socket 939 is the way to go. For now it also performs better!

    Happy Computering,
    theone
     
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  6. crowy

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    @theonejrs,
    Have a look at that link to Newegg that you posted.
    They're showing the AM2 3800 dual core with an operating frequency as 2.4GHZ??
    Must be a typo.
     
  7. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    crowy,

    No, it's a single core. The venice is also a single core. All the 3800+s that rick5446 listed are single cores. They run at different clock speed than that of the dual-cores. Check the link and scroll down to the specs and you will see that this is correct. I almost did the same thing myself. The Orleans chip is the AM2 version of the Athlon 64 3800+. All the rest are socket 939. This is a good buy at $145 if you want to go the expense of a new MB and DDR2 memory. That's why I would spend less money overall for the Athlon 64 x2 3800+ which runs at 2.0GHz and build it using my existing DDR400/PC3200 memory. That would give you a much faster computer for less money spent.

    Happy computering,
    theone
     
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  8. crowy

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    @theonejrs,
    Sorry my bad!!!
     
  9. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    FIHSNERD, Crowy: It's awesome, cheers!
    aabbccdd: yes and that made me jealous until mine arrived!
    FIHSNERD, rick5446: nah not AM2, 939 is just as good and cheaper too! There's no futureproofing to be had with AM2 whatsoever. I got a new system post-AM2's release with a large budget and chose 939, because I could get better value memory and it's cheaper overall for the same performance. Go X2 3800+ though, that's a GOOD processor.
     
  10. crowy

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    Hey Guys,totally off topic!!!

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    Regards Crowy.
     
  11. sammorris

    sammorris Senior member

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    Utterly off topic, but utterly hilarious! Who comes up with this stuff?
     
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    a dirty old man or woman with alzheimer's!!
     
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  14. FIHSNERD

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    Man.. that is just good..
    niicee..
     
  15. rick5446

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    I'm still shopping..How does this setup look...Just to many choices

    Mwave.com

    XION SOLARIS XON-407 (SILVER) MID TOWER W/450W POWER SUPPLY 4x5.25" 1x3.5" 5x3.5"(hidden) W/ FRONT I/O PORTS & 80mm CASE FAN x 1NO EXTRA FAN
    $59.00 SKU: BA22391 -

    ASUS A8N32-SLI DELUXE BUNDLE W/ RETAILED=AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ - VENICE= KINGSTON 1GB DDR400=(512MB X 2)= ASSEMBLE/TEST BUNDLE
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  16. aabbccdd

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    wait a couple weeks and you can get the AMD 3800x2 for 169.00 dollars ,dual-core is the way to go

    i would go with the CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 433(PC 3200) with that mobo
     
  17. theonejrs

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    rick5446,

    O.K. First off I wouldn't buy the MB you chose. I was going to but was strongly advised by several people who's opinion I respect in another forum, not too! Yeah, I know it looks pretty with the copper and all but it has been a very troublesome MB in terms of the bios and the difference in performance between it and the A8N-SLI isn't worth the price to get a couple more frames per second!

    You would be better off doing it like this:
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813131517
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103531
    Add the case and you get a total of $335 with free shipping!

    You wind up with a better and faster computer for less money!!

    Better yet, wait until July 24 when the advertised 30 to 50% price cuts come from AMD and you can have at least a x2 3800+ Dual-Core for less money than what you posted! Of course it's your choice but I like getting more for less!

    Happy Computering,
    theone

     
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  18. rick5446

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    theonejrs..aabbccdd..Thanks for your input,I guess I'll wait for the Dual-Core
    Any suggestions on a Case,and Powersupply
     
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  19. aabbccdd

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    Antec cases are really nice same with the power supply Antec-True Power being a very good PS i would go with at least the 480watt iam running the 550 watt
     
  20. theonejrs

    theonejrs Senior member

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    rick5446,
    The price range on cases is so wide, it depends a lot on what you want to spend. Take a look here:www.geeks.com as they have a pretty wide range of prices. You will laugh but I only paid $25 for my case, and it's Identical to the one it replaced, only black. When I built my new one I stuck with what I knew worked well. Since my MB temps stay at 35 to 37C pretty much constant, it does a good job of getting the heat out of it.

    Power supplies are another subjective thing. I got aomewhat criticised for using a $45 500 watt Aspire TurboLink power supply, yet it works well and I've load tested it. It's not the best in the world but it has decent quality inside of it, has Dual 12v rails and it works well for me.

    Here's a pic of my case

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    I like it and it has a door with LEDs covering the drives.

    Happy computering,
    theone
     
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