Intel vs. AMD

The grain of salt isn't, the price cuts have been made and at a few places, the reduced chips are in stock!

X2 3800+: Previously £180 now £110
X2 4200+: Previously £240 now £140
X2 4600+: Previously £350 now £170
X2 5000+: Previously £500 now £225!!!
FX-62 has also dropped a bit from £750 to £550.

 

sammorris
maybe value is not all there is. stock, the 6300 conroe outbenches the fx 64 55. check out tom's hardware amoung others you the benches. But yes for value, all of a sudden you can do a super build with either amd or intel chips with the falling prices!

 

Yeah for sure, but if THG's prelim benches for conroe are accurate, and they eventually become available, I may just make a second folding system out of one, they look awesome!

 

dazila,ok, remove the 1024mb chip and the 128mb chip.Put one of the 512mb chips in slot one and the other 512mb chip in slot three.At the moment you will be running 2t as opposed to 1t and single channel not dual channel..You will find everything will be faster.
Iv'e got a feeling when you had that AMD set up,only the 128mb chip was being recognized,that explains why it was so slow especially if you have a lot of programs running at startup.

 

Hey guys, i got my monitor in today, and it kicks ass... i am so impressed by the size of it...

i am going to order the rest of my stuff later. have u guys herd of e buyer? i saw the website when i was on price grabbers... they are cheaper than new egg on some things.....

 

i re did my score after i got my lcd in digital and it was 2232.. DVI really does help..

ok...

KOOL... when is conroe comming out?

 

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crowey
Seems to be a very expensive AIR CONDITIONIER! It would be easier to run a tube from one of the ac outlets.. will do the same job!

 

@baltekmi,
Thats true,
but you would need 2 tubes, one to cool the cpu and one to extract any humidity out of the case,and our air conditioner is about 10 metres from the computer so 20 metres of tubing running through the house probably wouldn't impress the wife.Plus the power bill would go through the roof!!LOL.

 

baltekmi,

Not even close. Air coming out of an air conditoner is around 55F. This thing cools the CPU to -45! It doesn't make any heat in a normal sense. Heat removal is different. That's why we need good coolers. You take the CPU down to -45 and there is no heat to speak of. It's there but it's gone so quickly the sensor doesn't know that it's there!

You could achieve better results with Liquid Nitrogen, but the pressures caused by having a boiling point of around -213F would make it a very hazardous method. You would need some very heavy pipe, indeed. The environment around you would be another consideration too as the whole room would get very cold. The piping would have to be wrapped in heavy layers of insolation, or they would find you in the morning frozen to your desk! That's some very cold stuff!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

Hi all,

I noticed aside from the price that they are also out of stock.Is there that much demand for this product and who aside from a very wealthy overclocking fanatic would have use for it?

 

FIHSNERD: Yeah ebuyer have a very strong newegg-like presence in the UK, and they are in the US but not so popular,they are very cheap. Conroe has come out, but you can't buy one because of availability problems, no such issue from AMD!
Crowy, baltekmi: Or you could justhave a well set-up case with a good cooler, and save a fortune, getting almost the same result! Heat is rarely the issue with many overclocks, especially not with Conroes, 65W must make them cool as ice now coolers have been made to deal with the 130W from smithfields!!

Theonejrs: Lol I foolishly assumed 45 was celsius! That's insane, 8ºC. What's the point?

Boxwrench: Let's just say most of us are happy with our Zalman coolers, and lots of us are overclocking fanatics!

 

sammorris,

I'm not quite a fanatic...yet,but I am working on it!LOL!
As for cooling I think I'll give one of those Artic freezers a try,I've heard some good things about them and for $25.00 they seem to be a good deal.

 

They're awesome, if I only I could have had one!

 

FIHSNERD,

At those temps, electrons move very fast when excited. That's why Supercomputers have super cooling like that, only much colder! They also have some pretty impressive plumbing coming out of the case!

My New Arctic Freezer 7 Pro will do me nicely! The Zalman 9500 will do nicely for the Prescott as well!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

Russ what do you think is a better cooler the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro or the Zalman 9500 or would you say there about equal

 

Performance they're probably quite similar, but the Arctic will be quieter methinks.

 

boxwrench,

There's some people at another forum who tell me my MB sensors are bad. I got the Arctic because of a misprint and rather than go through the bother of sending it back I switched from the Zalman 9500 to the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro in my D940. I didn't touch a thing other than the cooler. When I turned it back on and let it run for a while, my CPU temp was around 32C which was about 10C lower than with the Zalman. It one time touched 50C loaded at 100% CPU usage.

Right now it's idling at 26CPU/35MB. We had a power outage a few days ago so the air was off for a while. When the power came back on, it was pretty warm in here. 27C to be exact! I was seeing 27/39. Doing a burn in at 100% it was 45/40!

After a couple of days the thermal grease (AS5) gets worked into the nooks and crannies between the heat shield and the substantially hefty solid copper CPU heat sink, so coolers usually get a few degrees better after a few days of use so now I was seeing 27/37. I cut off the air and let the room and the computer warm up. I kicked the big fan to top speed and was seeing 33/42. I think the Arctic Freezer 7 Pro is an excellent cooler! I think the range on the MB temp sensor is poor at best. Just to be sure I took the temp of the air coming out the back of the computer and it was 33C at the case fan and 36C at the power supply at 27C room temp. No problems with heat in this computer.

Another thing that gets me is people complain about it's noise. Maybe it's because I sit 3 feet away from the side Window fan, but I don't hear any difference between the Arctic and the Zalman. I can still hear the video card's fan spool up every so often while playing games. I got mine for $25 and I may just by the right model for the Prescott as well. Buy One!

Happy Computering,
theone

 

aabbccdd,

Great minds think alike. See my answer to boxwrench!

theone

 

Absolutely. A 40s temperature at full load for a dual core chip is excellent work, especially if it's quiet enough to hear GPU fan activity. I can, but then my GPU is one of the noisiest on the market! Doesn't make many odds though, since my case is fairly well ventilated, it doesn't ever reach the maximum speed it spins at on startup, that's extreme!