brobear, I haven't claimed to know everything since I was a teenager I merely stated that I find 321 Platinum useless, at least in Advanced mode in comparison to Simple/Xpress, I don't think anyone should take anybody's else post on this forum as anything other than personal opinion/preference. When I'm dissing something I may not bother with reasons, but I will try to back up any recomendations with facts or repeatable tests. As to why some are having problems and others not with Intervideo Copy 2 Plantinum, it could be many things, but it does say a bit about testing/support from Intervideo, imho. Also the movie tested just may not have been IVC2P's cup of tea, only 7 gigs but 3 hrs. 40+ minutes long. Time permitting I'll backup with CCE and DVD2one this weekend using the same Decrpytor ripped folder. I'll also try IVC2P on the LOR Two Towers and compare it my current backup made with Xpress. When I post the results, I'll post the NERO video codec lists and system particulars as well. Maybe somebody will see a known conflict if the IVC2P doesn't perform well again.
Yea but you've got enjoy a line where someone rips with DVD Decrypter, edits with instant copy, and compresses and burns with DVDcopy2.
lol,[bold]sophocles[/bold] I was picking up what you were laying down.lol[bold] to brian[/bold] I hope you don't forsake AD brian, it's been fun and hell, we don't HAVE to talk about copy2 every time your here. I, for one, would miss you and besides, there others that could use your input, so stay in touch. So I'll just say see ya in the near future, OK?
I don't want to see brian go either and I hope that wasn't conveyed in anything I've posted. It's time we found new interests and move beyond this debate. We are all becoming stagnant and lost in self promotion and we've lost sight of our genuine interests backing up movies and more importantly the pursuit of knowledge. We can do so much more together than any one of us could do alone. Think of were we've all come and what we've learned, that's got to be worth sharing.
Demondog, You misunderstand the Platinum. You say you want movie only, mostly. Well Xpress is a one button wonder. It basicly fills the disk to its maximum limit with as much material as possible. You have no control over the process. When you get movie only, then the movie itself is well over the target size. If the movie isn't too large, you get the additional material. The algorithm chooses, not you. That is with the entire disc option unchecked. The only control there is subtitles and language choice. So how are you editing for movie only. With the entire disc option, the program goes max and compresses everything on the disc to where it fits the target, irregardless. The nice thing about Platinum that you might want to check out. There is a complete users manual in the later versions in PDF format. There are still versions on the net. I noticed one in the UK just the other day. It is the advanced program that gives the editing ability to choose movie only. Working titles are included in the choice. As titles are a negligable issue with compression, I think it an excellent option. Most people like the option when available. You say you like the quality of Xpress, do you think the company would develop different algorithms for their programs? Too much R&D when one will suffice. As you claim to be high on the learning curve, I only need to give you one hint and you can read the included guide and match my excellent results. The titleset with the largest number of chapters is usually the main movie. Use priview to check that you have the right file. Plus when you check a titleset the program gives you the size. So, read some manuals and you can really have a choice of movie only. With my extensive experience and knowledge of the Platinum DVDXCopy program, I can say this is a good program with good results. [bold]I can also say that the Platinum program is not the best for mega size movies. I stopped using it for the big stuff. There were movies that skipped scenes and that was due to not handling the higher compression loads. The useful limits are around 5 to 6GB with video starting to suffer at the higher end. Go higher and compression gets into skippers and other compression woes. Good up to midsize, but the program looses it on the highend and that goes for Advanced XCopy and the XCopy Xpress.[/bold] Even the socalled pro tests indicate the truth of higher compression problems. Did a movie only short guide on here somewhere. Forgot where I posted it. Not going to waste my time looking it up. It is here somewhere. You might want to run a search. Quote: [bold]I don't think anyone should take anybody's else post on this forum as anything other than personal opinion/preference.[/bold] How wrong can you be? When we take time to explain how something works, we explain how, not give a preference as to how. We usually note or it is obvious when members speak of a preference. Like when I say I like one program over another. Even then I give verifiable attributes and faults, things reproducable when the programs are used correctly. If I don't know how a program works or am not familiar with it, I keep my yap shut. I even say when I like a program due to familiarity. So, there is a lot more than personal opinion and preference going on here. Or is that all you're looking for, a place to sound off?[/bold] No need to respond unless you just want to flatter your ego. I've wasted enough time. Good luck learning the Platinum XCopy. When you learn and give legitimate reasons, someone may listen.
Sophocles, BigO Sophocles is right in saying we should move on. We will run into those who want to disagree for the sake of it and draw others down to try to make a trivial point. Let them bask in their own self admiration. Everyone will see who they are and they only build their own coffins to paraphrase what BigO said. BTW BigO, BJ is payment. _X_X_X_X_X_[small][bold]'brobear'[/bold] [/small]
brobear I've suggested to Vurbal that we start 2 new threads usimg DVD-RB/CCE Basic (exclusively). One for newcomers and one for the advanced and I'm even thinking that an intermediate level might also be practical. We won't be able to discuss the 1 click encoders, if we need to do that then there'r a "General Discussion area and we can start a thread for that. Common aboard brobear.
brobear said, "....Well Xpress is a one button wonder. It basicly fills the disk to its maximum limit with as much material as possible. You have no control over the process. When you get movie only, then the movie itself is well over the target size. If the movie isn't too large, you get the additional material. The algorithm chooses, not you...." I'll give you the nod for expertise over me in the Platinum, but you have Xpress/Simple wrong. The default is movie only, if you check the "Entire Movie" box on the front is gives you everything, movies, menus and features, with of course more resulting compression. And I never said, nor intimated that a different algorithm was used, but you are quite correct in stating that continuing discourse is futile, since I seem to be unable to write well enough for you to understand my intent. I only posted this so as to correct any mistakes others may get from your post about the use and/or ability of the Xpress/Simple option. Cheers.
Hello again guys, Work has been keeping me away. I think to many people get good results from DVDcopy2 for it to have true quality problems. I'm going to change the way I'm testing and run more movies through. Sophocles, Do you judge quality by pausing on your big screen or just watch at normal speed? I figure to test on the TV instead of trying to blow up the frames shots on a computer. Since that is where I'll be watching. Reguardless I recommend anyone, newbie or otherwise to try this program and just watch the movie to see if it is to your liking. I suspect I will buy it when the budget allows.
6040 I judge by both, I have a large 36" TV(not as big as bigorange's 56" TV. When I pause I also include a PC comparison. The PC comparison is the best of my tests. I increase the screen size in increments until it becomes pixeled. I have a 22" crt screen. Except for very expensive high end TV's, my monitor is about as discriminatory as it gets. My video card is an HIS Excalibur IceQ Radeon 9800 pro and my monitor,a Viewsonic P225f 22 set at 1600 by 1200 with 85 hz refresh rate. If there's a problem I'll see it. _ _X_X_X_X_X_[small] "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930)[/small]
6040 I'm done with this debate over DVDcopy 2 and whatever, you don't like it and that's ok and I don't care, it's a fruitless and pointless pursuit. Let's move on. _ _X_X_X_X_X_[small] "Once you eliminate the impossible, whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth." Sherlock Holmes (by Sir Arthur Conan Doyle, 1859-1930)[/small]
The main criteria I have is for a good picture on the 60" screen tv. The wife can't tell the difference between the copies and the originals. I guess we just need to use it if we like it and those that don't won't. The discussion is becoming fruitless as Sophocles said. _X_X_X_X_X_[small][bold]'brobear'[/bold] [/small]
Its OK. I'm sure you've got better things to do then baby sit me on a simple program. I have a 21" crt and an 18" LCD. I'll do my tests on the 21". I promise no more bad mouthing on this one. In fact I have gotten to like the program. The case is closed for that part of the conversation. The Divx part on platinum is worth the extra by itself. I didn't even know they had compatible players. Meanwhile its back to CCE. I'll see you in the CCE threads, time permiting. I have 2 dual proc units for dedicated rebuilder operation and figure on a third. I just need to learn Remake better. I got the pro but haven't quite figured out all the features yet. It kinda makes me feel dumb when using it. _X_X_X_X_X_[small]Donald[/small]
I was always glad to hear about your views regarding CCE because it wasn't all this conflict of too many choices. We are all exchanging ideas about the same software and although we're not always in agreement the successes benefits everyone.
The main thing for me is CCE is stable and gets good results 100% of the time. Pinnacle isn't stable enough for me. So it isn't getting used right now. Another reason I am liking DVDcopy2. Rock solid stability.
6040 Let's just stay with CCE for now, and you might want to get copy of DVDremake, it's going to fill a lot of future discussions. New threads coming.
Sophocles I don't know what you are looking for in a DVD/Divx player but Slickdeals.net showed a special $70 Phillips DVD/Divx player at Amazon.com.
