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Is lightscribe worth it?

Discussion in 'DVDR' started by qwik3r2, Oct 8, 2005.

  1. zhelpz

    zhelpz Guest

    andmerr

    Do you have to do any resizing or anything - I plan to try this on my lightscribe since I have it. I have not yet utilized its disks printing functions but i have a brand new box of Verbs just waiting to get used *L*
     
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  2. andmerr

    andmerr Guest

    select the cd image and it will automatically alter the size to match the disc once you attempt to burn it.The onlt reason it isnt on the site as the disc is to big.Pretty sure its explained in the FAQ...................
     
  3. zhelpz

    zhelpz Guest

    perfect and many thanks - yeah I forgot that is where I found the original answer to my question anyways - in the FAAQ's section *L*
     
  4. andmerr

    andmerr Guest

    not a prob

    have fun burning up a storm

    andmerr
     
  5. ireland

    ireland Active member

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    I may as well throw this article in the soup pot

    Yamaha & Fujifilm tout LabelFlash to Taiwanese ODD makers
    Posted by Seán Byrne on 30 October 2005 - 01:56 - Source: DigiTimes - daily IT news

    Just a few weeks ago, FujiFilm and Yamaha both introduced LabelFlash technology, which works in a similar process to HP's LightScribe technology. Both work by using the drive's laser to write titles to the disc's label side of compatible DVD media. However, their new technology is different in that the label will be blue & silver and uses an organic dye 0.6mm below the surface, but the process is faster at between 5 and 20 minutes per disc depending on the quality required.

    Now, in an aim to make the LabelFlash technology more widespread, Yamaha and FujiFilm are trying to convince Taiwanese optical disc drive makers to take on LabelFlash instead of the competing LightScribe technology. So far the main reason LightScribe capable DVD writers and media have done so poorly is due to the costs of the media, not to mention the drives. So, what Yamaha and FujiFilm have done is lowered their royalty charge, with some sources reckoning to be half that of LightScribe. If Lite-On takes on the technology (who currently uses LightScribe), they expect to be able to produce LabelFlash based DVD writers as soon as the first quarter of 2006.

    Although the promotion of LabelFlash has lagged behind that of LightScribe, Yamaha and Fujifilm have attempted to attract Taiwanese ODD makers by lower royalty charges, the sources indicated. The royalty charge for LabelFlash may be about half of that for LightScribe, the sources noted.

    For Taiwanese makers, the adoption of LabelFlash hinges on marketability, according to general manager Michael Gong of the Optical Disc Drive Business Unit of Lite-On. Lite-On will chose the technology that best suits customers’ needs, but could volume produce LabelFlash DVD burners in the first quarter of 2006 at the soonest, if the company adopts the technology, Gong indicated.

    As consumers often go for the cheapest drives, probably the best thing for Yamaha and FujiFilm to do would be to offer the technology without royalty to the drive makers and rely on consumers to purchase the media to collect the royalties from. For example, there are a wide range of printers on the market that are either sold with a very small profit margin or even subsidised to attract customers, but then rely on them having to buy the ink to make real business.

    From what I can see, the biggest competitor to both LabelFlash and LightScribe technology has to be the printers that feature direct CD & DVD printing. Not only do these print in colour, but they also take up a fraction of the time. Of course the ink costs money, but from what I can see, the saving involved by not using ink using the drive’s laser is very likely to be outweighed by the higher cost of LightScribe/LabelFlash media as apposed to standard printable media. Then again, LightScribe & LabelFlash media is much more resisting to smudging or wearing off.
    http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12607
     
  6. qwik3r2

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    staying on topic would be nice...
     
  7. ireland

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    qwik3r2
    what does the title say,

    Is lightscribe worth it? right?

    LabelFlash and LightScribe are compared to see if that are worth it..
    as the article i posted is talking about.right?
     
  8. MaxBurn

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    @ireland
    Thanks for that info. Any competition is bound to cause the Lightscribe discs to come down in price. I am hoping they will perfect full color lightscribe discs that are compatible with exsisting LS burners with maybe a firmware flash. Sometimes i have to play with the contrast and other settings to get a good grey scale image on a LS disc.

    and the post qwik3r2 made might not have been directed at you, as your post is right on topic. qwik3r2 didn't post your name, and may not have even seen your post if they didn't refresh the thread recently. Just my 2 cents. No offense to anyone. :)
     
  9. Dudge669

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    I have been using an Epson R200 printer with hub-printable dvdrs for about 2 years now and am VERY happy with the results. Very good quality discs can be purchased in lots of 100 for under $30 now and I buy my replacement ink cheaply online as well. 6 replacement cartridges for about $25 plus S&H from supermediastore.com (same place I buy my discs). I used to get the replacement ink from abcink.com but supermediastore is just a bit cheaper now and I'm already getting my discs there. I was so happy with my R200 that I bought another one about 8 months ago to have in my other computer room. The price of these printers has also dropped quite a bit. The last time I checked, they have been between $79-$99 but quite frequently have $50 rebates. When I bought my second one it only cost me $49 after rebate. Just keep watching the ads at your favorite retailers...
     
  10. andmerr

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    @ qwik3r2:

    grow up and have a look at the topic heading , it doesnt say that you cant mention alternatives.


    @ ireland
    Yamaha & Fujifilm tout LabelFlash to Taiwanese ODD makers , i doubt that i would go that way yet as with anything new the prices are exorbitant.I may upgrade to the new canon Pixma IP 8000 but generally i pay $30 for 5 cartidges for my current IP 4000.On a test run i printed 357 discs before the ink ran out, as well as print to about 50 sheets of paper/gloss photos etc.

     
  11. gwendolin

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    @qwik3r2, once you/ve got past NEWBIE stage then you may be able to say those things but you are WRONG< WRONG etc.
     
  12. qwik3r2

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    @andmerr: first choose your words more wisely, i have no growing up to do for mentioning "stay on topic" I was refering to the babbling about the cup crap you were talking about and cdcovers, keep it in a PM and leave this thread about lightscribe AND its alternatives.

    @ireland: no i wasn't talking about you, the article you supplied was very informative, thanks.

    @gwendolin: not sure what the hell your even talking about. I love how because i decided to sign up soooo late in life and haven't been plastered behind a computer on this board for hundreds of years everyone thinks i'm a NEWBIE. lovely.
     
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  13. gwendolin

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    @qwik3r2 your last contribution to this thread was on Oct 29 at 13.53 and you didnt come back until 30 October at 19.32...sure we babbled on for a while, what did you want us to do, sit around and wait for pompous little you!!! People find it hard to help SMART ALICS
     
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  14. zhelpz

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    Shakin my head - I thought reading was [bold]fundamental[/bold]?

    Is it just me - or do dvd covers PRINTED WITH LIGHTSCRIBE WRITERS and INKJET PRINTERS have something to do with this topic.

    Geez!

    Oh I guess it was on topic when he/she wanted to see examples & discuss them - [bold]BUT not when others are discussing it.[/bold]

    This is just funny - SAD - but funny.

    Im done *L*
    Really - I am *L*
     
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  15. creaky

    creaky Moderator Staff Member

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    i came to this thread to get some lightscribe info. i found the stuff between those times gwendolin mentioned, was on topic.

    @qwik3r2 - i've found the info here more than informative, plus was pleased to see alternative info that wasn't just about lightscribe, ie i have some more ideas now from when i first started reading the thread. What i do see is that the other guys (including a Moderator) have kept the thread going with relevant discussion in your absence. Which is good otherwise the thread might have easily been left to gather dust with all the other threads. I have found all discussions very useful myself.. The other posters have actually supplemented the info you requested, don't you think ?
     
  16. Gringle

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    Well I found all this very interesting:


    A simple question is asked on the Newbie forum.

    A well respected, and knowledgeable member replies; in his well known 'folksy'style.

    "Don't waste My, and My 'Bosses' valuable time!" Berates the newbie.
    "I'm really a PC expert!"
    An expert newbie who apparently can't use google? Thinks gringle. :)

    The ever sociable, Mod Ireland joins the thread, and proceeds to copy and paste, the required information.

    Having now been spoonfed this information. The expert newbie who apparently can't use google. Purrs with satisfaction, thinks gringle. :)

    The thread meanders (as all threads do) around the topic, other members give their experiences, problems, and advice.

    "Get back on the topic!" Demands the expert newbie who apparently can't use google One of them google junkies, I've read about thinks gringle :)

    More info is exchanged; before the thread degenerates into a Who said what, and who wrote that? Sort of thread.

    I read this for the first time last night, and I agree with creaky, this has all been very informative.

    The main lesson I've learned is; don't be rude to folks, and never trust a google junkie;)

    regards all.




     
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  17. andmerr

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    gringle as always a very good read.
     
  18. gwendolin

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    @Gringle, I was off to bed but thought I'd have one last look, you cracked me up, now I'm off to bed with a really big smile. Absolutely poetic stuff. LOL
     
  19. 9mmruger1

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    I'm LMAO.
    thinkin to myself, people are strange...when you're a stranger[/]
     
  20. qwik3r2

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    Ok this has gotten out of hand. It scares me that gwendolin took the time to actually see when i posted last and is keeping track of me. I view the thread from work and see how its going but at this point i will no longer be doing so. What further more boggles my mind is how people have the time to actually sit down and write a story in this thread about me being a newbie, i mean come on, do you people have jobs? I will admit that i called talking about labels off topic to be incorrect, it is relevant. And to those who still have such a hatred for me because they think i didn't use google, guess again that is how i got here to begin with and to date i have not found a good enough thread about lightscribe until i came here, read through most of them and decided to start my own and until a few pompous egotistical nerds chimed in to change the subject or FIGHT WITH ME it WAS a good and INTERESTING topic. I blame myself for lowering myself to actually respond to some of this.

    What would be nice is everyone could drop this B.S. and get back on track, forgetting it and actually talking about lightscribe, sound good? Thanks.
     
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