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Discussion in 'DVDR' started by qwik3r2, Oct 8, 2005.

  1. zhelpz

    zhelpz Guest

    shakin head

    Hey andmerr (havent "seen" you in a lil while),

    Im still working on it too - had to come back and get some more info ... so far the host install is not working - Ill be moving on to step two next w/ the uninstall but first I have to get that cleaning tool thing - dont want to waste time ding double-work on this one - I've been all over the site Maxburn provided trying to read up on some things w/ this silly lighscribe burner of mine ....
     
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  2. ireland

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    just info
    cheers

    The First Ever LightScribe Publishing Tower
    Posted by Rui Marinho on 20 November 2005 - 22:13 - Source: CD Freaks
    http://www.cdfreaks.com/news/12715

    The following text is a complete press release, unmodified by CD Freaks. If you don't want to view these kind of news posting you can disable them in your preferences page once logged in. Please send your press releases to news@cdfreaks.com

    The First Ever LightScribe Publishing Tower
    Multiple Simultaneous DVD/CD Labeling

    The Aleratec 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS Records,
    Duplicates and Labels up to 4 DVDs/CDs

    CHATSWORTH, Calif., Nov. 21, 2005 -- Alera Technologies, Inc., developer and manufacturer of Aleratec advanced USB, DVD/CD duplicating, recording, and digital imaging solutions announced today another industry first, the 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS(tm), only from Aleratec. The Publishing Tower supports up to 4 simultaneous DVD/CD Copies, Recordings, or produces up to 4 Silk Screen Quality
    LightScribe labeled discs. The 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS is a DVD/CD duplicator with LightScribe technology that simultaneously Laser burns custom labels directly on DVD/CD discs making it the first LightScribe desktop production disc publishing system. You can create your own custom labels, with text and graphics, using the unique Aleratec Disc Publishing Software Suite, powered by Droppix, included FREE! with purchase.

    "Detailed observation of the Prosumer disc publishing scenario, makes us certain we have developed a breakthrough solution that fills a large void between expensive and cumbersome robotic equipment and writing on the back of discs with a marker. Putting this in perspective, the potential for the 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS is awesome," stated Perry Solomon, President and CEO. "The 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS with the Aleratec Disc Publishing Software Suite developed by Droppix, can duplicate 4 discs simultaneously or label 4 discs simultaneously, a significant advancement in the application of LightScribe Technology, and it's only from Aleratec. Per disc production time is dramatically
    reduced and there is no printer required, eliminating the need for far more expensive robotic systems. You can even mix copying discs and burning labels at the same time which makes it perfect for one off jobs where the content and the label of each disc is different."

    LightScribe technology is an integrated system that combines LightScribe enabled DVD/CD recorders with specially coated media and the powerful Aleratec Disc Publishing Software Suite powered by Droppix, to produce precise, laser-etched, silkscreen quality labels with superior sharpness and clarity. The Droppix powered Aleratec Disc Publishing Software Suite, includes: the special Aleratec Droppix Label Maker, which produces up to 4 simultaneous LightScribe Disc Labels, right from your desktop, no printer required, and it's only from Aleratec; Droppix Recorder for Towers, which produces up to 4 simultaneous disc copies, recordings or creations and Droppix Management Console, which monitors your publishing process. "Sharing the vision of an elegant and simple DVD/CD publishing solutionfor users with no alternative other than complex robots and printers,we are proud to have developed the special multiple recorder version of Droppix Label Maker exclusively for Aleratec," stated Robert Juzyna,President and CEO of Droppix SARL. "We believe the unique 1:4 DVD/CDTower Publisher LS is an excellent example of the perfect fit betweenLightScribe-enabled Droppix Software and Aleratec DVD/CD recording andduplicating technology."

    The 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS (Aleratec Part No. 260150, Ingram Micro SKU No. H71760), is the only LightScribe DVD/CD Production Publisher and it is powered by Droppix. The 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS is a remarkable value, with a low Estimated Street Price of $999 The low ESP of $999 makes the 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS the lowest total cost of ownership of the disc publishing systems making it ideal for Prosumer, Corporate, Government and Education applications. Until now the equipment available to copy discs and label them required making a substantial investment in a machine that is only by a stretch of the imagination "desktop". More than one person is required to move some of these machines so to get copies you have to go to the machine rather than having the machine at your desk where the work is. The 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS, is a package that is truly desktop with only a 7 x 15 inch footprint and weighing about 20 pounds.


    About Aleratec

    Alera Technologies is a leading developer and manufacturer of Aleratec "Prosumers' Choice" solutions for the USB, DVD and CD duplicating, recording, and digital imaging markets. Exciting new Aleratec USB, DVD and CD recording, duplicating and digital imaging solutions are establishing a higher standard in the industry with professional strength solutions at consumer prices that are exceptionally easy to
    use and understand, creating the ultimate "out of box" product experience.
     
  3. carp11

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    On September 9,2005 GenChoas had a post which should take care of host software problems. I'm not sure how to attach it to this post so didn't try. I followed his outline and have had no problems. Speed is slow, but if you read at lightscribe.com an enhancement is coming out with current
    burners able to update to take advantage of it.This info was also in GenChoas post. Hope this helps somebody.
     
  4. ScubaPete

    ScubaPete Senior member

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    again, I missed out (time-wise) BUT knowing me, you'all know I can't be completely silent ~

    also, I'm not afraid to name names ~ Guys, you all got way, way out of hand and you know it !



    @qwik3r2,

    SIT ! ! STAY ! !


    You're not involved in this argument and no one much cares about your opinion about it.





    @Matt72 & gwendolin,

    I cannot believe what I just read ! There was no call for any of that from either of you.

    In an effort to balance this out, I would like to plead with BOTH of you return to your individual posts and edit out all of your remarks to each other. The thread didn't need a Flame war ~ Besides, it didn't look very good on either of you. Sooo, Dust yourselves off, Clean yourselves up and take a second to edit your posts ~ PLEASE, . . . Thank you both :)




    @MaxBurn,

    bad MaxBurn, bad MaxBurn, you just ruined ScubaPete's Christmas fund (Lol) there will be no happiness in the ScubaPete household, de MaxBurn money faucet has done been turned off :(

    On an up note, I did a bit "O" sspeedo reading and missed the part that said "background". Thanks for the re-print. Still, I was the first that said I thought that the LightScribe were way, kweel even in the gold screen print they currently have. Adding more background colors would be cooler than a snowball down the back of your pants in de wintertime . . . . Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeee (Lord did that feel goooood :)




    Hey ireland,

    I know you only report the news BUT it would be a cold day in Grand Cayman (a small group of islands just South of Cuba) before de old guy would ever have the pieces of "8" to afford a 1:4 DVD/CD Tower Publisher LS. Though it's nice to know it's out there, I guess I'll just have to be satisfied with my BenQ.




    @qwik3r2,

    At least you have another option to consider ~ again, it could never, ever produce a label in 25 seconds BUT it can do 4 at one time, should you ever need to label your discs in bulk.
     
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  5. gwendolin

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    @ScubaPete, a good idea, I've done my bit. Posts edited. Your words of wisdom are always welcome.
     
  6. ScubaPete

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    Thanks gwendolin, it makes us all lQQk better to those who may read this months from now :)

    Come'on now Matt72, be the "Good Guy" I know you to be . . .

    Now we'll all sit 'round the camp fire being friendly, eatin' beans and passing gas . . . .


    (Now I'l bet that paints a pretty picture . . . . . OR, maybe NOT ! (Lol)

    Cheers all,
     
  7. qwik3r2

    qwik3r2 Member

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    @scubapete:

    Would appreciate it if you wouldn't tell me what to do, i don't care if you or anyone else does or does not value my opinion, i was simply stating that obviously i am not the only person who is arguing in this thread, now get off my back once and for all, i'm sick of it.
     
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  8. darthnip

    darthnip Moderator Staff Member

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    if you're going to have that attitude you can get the hell out of here.
     
  9. matt72

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    @scubapete,

    Sorry I was during PCI checks.

    Interestingly enough this morning I called lacie to inquire about the lightscribe/ labelflash which was pointed out. Strangely about 15 minutes of looking for a 2 digit number on the burner comes to find out that was not supposed to be shipped, boxed, etc. They have asked me to send the burner back for the correct replacement which does not do color. Even offered to provide this area with direct product support until we leave.Hmmm their story doesn't match but as a consumer I don't think this is right as if I purchased the wrong item I would have to jump through circles to exchange or get a refund.

    Question...after reading maxburn's post I decided to run my media thru dvdinfopro to see the manufacturer coding and noticed it came up blank. Any ideas as why if they are sold that they are not listed?
     
  10. andmerr

    andmerr Guest

    @matt: thanks for editing your post man, its appreciated.


    @ qwik3r2:

    EVERYTHING HAD MORE OR LESS settled , we had all started to play nice again and this rockin thread that you had started was looking like it was going back on track.


    That was until some one said.......



    It seems you have been telling people from post one or maybe post 2 what to do.Whats good for the goose is also good for the gander but that s not what i'm cross about.Theres friendly argueing and then theres the total disrepect for some one that really crosses the forum boundary's.Matt edited his post which i thanked him for, now i'm asking you to edit the insinuation part of yours out.Do you really want kids to see the scrabbling adults unable to get on.

    this is the part i mean!!!!!!!



    And finally once and for all:

    CAN WE GET THIS THREAD BACK ON LINE AS IT IS VERY INFORMATIVE WITH OUT ALL THE INUENDO, FIGHTING,BACKSTABBING CRAP.


    lETS move on i've had my rant.What was the next topic some one please help me out.............


    andmerr
     
  11. qwik3r2

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    darthnip: yeah ok i'll get right on that...
     
  12. zhelpz

    zhelpz Guest

    Maxburn,

    I have applied all the info you suggested but still am not getting the host to merge - I did the clean tools and everything (actually I did the whole process twice) Looks like I may just have to contact Nero support. Oh and I noticed that my original disk (before my online updates) did have a number under the 6....8 - I think mine was like 6....5 - THAT could be causing the problem of why it wont recognize the lightscribe burner. But still w/ updates I would think it could do it - but then to again, you know computers and software can be - tempermental.

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    I keep seeing people mention they have HP 640i burners - while mine in a 640b - I wonder if my problem is lying here with something with my burner! I have run it through DVD Decryptor to see if there are any firmware updates and its not showing any for it ...

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    Carp, the info that Gen Chaos has (I went and checked out the thread by looking up his name) - is the exact same info the Maxburn has provided us in this thread - but still wanted to say thanks anyway
     
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  13. MaxBurn

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    We will keep this thread alive. (looks like it's gonna take effort though) Thanks everyone for doing their part, but really, there's some very good and informative stuff in here, if we can just keep it real.. i will look at, and read a post by ANYONE if i can get something good out of it. I already been there done that on verbal attacks/etc, and thats not what i want AD to be. I am not trying to tell anyone what to do,, i have issues with authority also,, just suggesting. As always anyone can take or leave my ideas, and it wont bother me. The only exception to that would be if i suggested a specific fix for someones error, and they refuse to impliment said fix, but still complain about having problems. Then i may get more persuasive in my argument :) Changing from crap media to good media is just one example where ppl seem to go insane over brand loyalty just because "it is cheap, and has always worked for me before" .. Oops started foaming at the mouth about crap media..
    The forum rules have changed recently.
    http://forums.afterdawn.com/thread_view.cfm/260074
    Lets all just hit that report offensive post button, and let the mods take care of the violators. They do a very good job of keeping things straight, and they can be the "bad guys" that keep things clean and tidy.
    Now back to the real world of LightScribe and general disc printing..
    @Zhelpz
    Sorry to hear none of that worked. I thought we might be close, but no cookie. I noticed my nero startsmart has 2 sn for neroexpress. Here is what the LS print looks like when i select a non-LS print capable drive.
    [​IMG]
    When i select the LG drive, it gives the LS Print as shown in prior post. I know this is just reaching, and you have been here for a while, but have you checked to see if your firmware is up2date for the HP? It is not an off brand, so nero should see it as a LS capable drive, and "un-hide" the LS printing in Nero. Did you e-mail nero tech support with your problem? Sounds like something they could easily fix either by having you dl something, or telling you how to unlock that feature.
    @ScubaPete
    Yes, different background colors will be a great improvement, though the gold ones are not bad,, and i noticed the article said improved image contrast, so that will be a very good thing too. Improvements are usually a good thing, if they actually improve somthing. You have my respect, but ya cant have my cash..:) (not that i have much cash anyways)
     
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    @Matt72,

    You could try using DVDIdentifier. It might be more up-to-date in it's database. That's all I can think of ~

    DVDIdentifier:
    http://dvd.identifier.cdfreaks.com/

    As to the burner ~ It certainly seems strange, it wasn't supposed to be shipped. What's that about ? I’m at a loss.



    @Andmerr,

    Nice post :)

    BUT judging by this:

    Little peas just doesn't get it . . . . .



    @Ireland,

    Heh, Heh, what would we ever do without your input ?

    Once again, an excellent article to be tossed into the soup. Thanks !

    I especially like the part about the different discs that aren't interchangeable. Could it be we're sea'n the beginning of a VHS / BetaMax head butting contest again ? If so, IMO, LightScribe has the definite advantage, sea'n how they're out with 3 major Mfgrs of LightScribe burners PLUS several Mfgrs of quality discs. It seems that the only thing that LabelFlash could come up with that could level the playing field would be a significantly lower DVD disc cost. Only time will tell there.
     
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    Some really good info here everyone, thanks for keeping it alive, very informative.
     
  18. darthnip

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    you'll get right on that? really? you're 1 wise crack away from getting banned.
     
  19. zhelpz

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    Maxburn,

    First let me say - I am starting to think its a issue with my HP writer and its software.

    I am thinking this because,

    1) [bold]the fix you gave me was SO EASY - there is really NO reason why it should not have worked[/bold] (under all correct conditions).

    2)[bold]Why is it that I cannot find ANY INFO on my drive which is SUPPOSED to be a HP 640b. Now I have found info on the 640c, the 640i, and a whole host of other HP writers, but none on the 640b. Now isnt that kind of strange.[/bold] this includes looking on the actual HP site. ----> So this leads me to answer your latest question ... have I updated the firmware. Well, [bold]I have been looking for ANY firmware update for the 640b for months now[/bold] (well before the current issue has come about). I'm getting zilch! I think i am going to have to call HP at this point. [bold]I will try to get some tech support through HP and Nero and see which one can help me the quickest[/bold] - I have had to call HP before - its not pretty *L* (Im getting a headache just thinking about having to contact them)

    3) No matter what I do, the computer just does not seem to recognize the fact that I have a LIGHTSCRIBE burner - other than that one particular program I mentioned before - Intervideo WinDVD Creator - I am going to have to waste a disk just to make sure it will actually do anything at this point.

    4) I went into my application recovery - guess what I saw - Lighscribe HOST application installation recovery - can you guess what happened after I (re)/installed that - *L* Zilch !

    5)To further my point about [bold]the 640b GHOST / ALIEN / non existent drive[/bold] - I was doing some bitsetting/booktyping on my drives - can you guess what happened when I tried to bookset the suppossed 640b drive? I got an error message telling me it (bare with me) "you need to re-install the software ... something or other ... as if the drive did not even exist!) Its too bad I cannot recall the actual message - the installation came str8 from the HP site to bitset HP BURNERS.

    6) I am trying not to let this frustrate me - BUT - My computer is possessed!
     
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  20. MaxBurn

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    @zhelpz
    It's not the computer that is posessed, it's the drive. I have this LG lightscribe drive, and it is not listed for a firmware update either. Mine is 4166B and i can find models above and below it, but not it. Even creaky couldn't find it when he checked. The auto-firmware update feature included w/drive, doesn't work either. Fortunatly mine is working with all good media (i don't put crap media in it).
    I found the disc that had the LS software on part of it. Here is what it showed on the disc. (couldn't get the whole disc image to fit, so here is the LS part only)
    [​IMG]
    I went thru the program looking to see if there is just a lightscribe part that i could get to you, but the LS part i found, would not execute on its own, it needed to be installed with the package. I am running out of ideas. Did you contact Nero for lightscribe support?
     
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