The way I see it is this. I have a Pioneer 107 with the hacked firmware. I backup-up dvd's quite frequently using Shrink/Nero. All my backups are done on 4XSpeed Ritek's at 8XSpeed. As I understand it the general opinion seems to be 'the slower, the better' when it comes to dvd burning speeds, so I consider myself to be very lucky to have perfect copies every time at 8XSpeed. The new Pioneer 108 is claimed to write at 16XSpeed but who is going to attempt to burn a movie backup at that speed or even at 12X. I personally wouldn't risk it, not just to save 2 or 3 minutes burning time. The other point is the 108 is also a dual layer burner but with dual layer Ritek's costing from £7.00 each disc, who can afford it? I am aware, of course, that a lot of people use dvd's just for backing up data but the same question applies. According to a test I seen somewhere the 108 only writes at 16X right at the edge of the disc so the initial gains are not as great as one would hope. I can understand people wanting to upgrade from the earlier Pioineers to the 107 but at the moment the 108 just doesn't seem a viable investment.