is this a bit of hope or more bulls**t

When they refer to "virgin", they're not referring to the provider........VIRGIN, as in unused....as in a brand new card, never inserted in a reciever.
Sounds like they're on about american providers and are hacking a brand new unused card.

Just my 2 cents worth.

 

Just So You Know What HMS Is On About Here's A Quote On RSA

"In cryptography, RSA (which stands for Rivest, Shamir and Adleman who first publicly described it) is an algorithm for public-key cryptography. It is the first algorithm known to be suitable for signing as well as encryption, and was one of the first great advances in public key cryptography. RSA is widely used in electronic commerce protocols, and is believed to be secure given sufficiently long keys and the use of up-to-date implementations."

Is Nagravision 3 hacked?
YES, but not fully. Some boxes are able to view some channels encrypted using Nagravision 3 through a technique called "card sharing" whereby the encryption status of an existing paid subscriber card is disseminated to other receivers through the use of a networked connection. Many hackers in the underground FTA testing community are working hard to further crack this security implementation as they have done in the recent past with Nagravision 2. Current underground projects are limited to channels which can be subscribed to. Channels that are not available for subscription such as Special Events and Pay-Per-View programming have so far remained unavailable.

 

For NA sat you must have a subbed box and cam. The box must be jtaggable or you need a dump from the N2 cam that was previously subbed to the box. This is to work around the RSA. There are 2 programs available to use to CS, one is rqcs (or something like that) and the other is NKShare. Both require having Boxkeys and RSA info (here it is the Secodary Key or DT08 from the cam or IRD flash) entered in the config files. The subbed card then goes in an ISO (or PowerSync type unlocker can also be used for NKShare) on a PC running the Server software. The same PC also runs the Client software with a EMU interface connected to the sub IRD. The cs Server program is usually passing all EMMs through to keep channel tiers updated. Other clients are connected to the Server PC through the net, or LAN with a EMU device and PC running only the Client program. The config file for the client must include the tiers the sub has paid for, most run wide open tiers including a wide open PPV tier. This allows the clients to recieve any PPV the sub orders, or any new channels added to the sub package. I haven't read much on rqcs, but I know it will share to FTA recievers like the Dreambox as well as others. NKShare is for Echostar NA IRDs only and the clients need to have a N2 cam image, but is alot more stable. The way it works is the Client tunes to a channel, the IRD requests the CW (control word) for authorization from the sub card, instead of a card we have an emulator set up, the Client SW forwards the request to the Server PC, the Server PC requests the CW from the card in the ISO, the card thinks it is the subbed box requesting the CW so it calculates the CW using the RSA keys and sends it back to the client, opening the channel for viewing. All of the public/commercial IKS or CS servers work with the same basic principle, hence the reason all of the currently working solutions need internet connections and are missing PPV and Sports. There is no hacking of the N3 card being done at all. They are exploiting a flaw from N2 that wasn't cleaned up in N3. So nobody should buy into the claims "more channels are coming soon" or "we are getting close". Also connecting to a public server is a VERY bad idea. NA providers have already shut down and sued the pants off of a few here and it wouldn't be too difficult to track end users. I hope this is the info you were interested in, if not I'll try and clarify more for you.

 

only little bit of problem with this is to extract the RSA key from the legit box, can be done but until them that is what is stopping card sharing a legit VM subscription.

 

Have heard of a couple of people capable of getting this information if you send them your box. One is in Poland. If they are already doing it for people I'm sure the method will become public soon enough, I would imagine.

 

Edmonton Guy has been long gone for a couple years. That garbage posted is from a few years ago but it's been changed to say N3 instead of N2.

 

HMS, I read that post of yours at least five times. First it was complete puzzlement but finally I think the penny has dropped. I'm unused to the expression ISO but I guess to be an external card reader such as a Smargo or the likes which can be connected to a PC via USB or serial. So what you describe is a server system that is completely PC based with the clients connecting using emulator communication. Effectively this is exactly the same as NDS CS. The difficult issue would seem to be to get boxkey and rsa info so that the system can be effective as zappp64 has said. On the NDS system its just boxkey info which is easily extracted.

 

Yes, ISO is a card reader, short for the ISO 7816 smart card protocol. The server is PC based, and still has to have the subscribed box connected with an EMU setup in order to keep the card updated. If Europe is just starting to implement RSA with N3 then that could be difficult. The RSA is calculated using the boxkey, plus public and private keys. Here the private keys remained the same between N2 and N3, allowing any box that was working with an open N2 setup to work with N3 for cardsharing.

 

HMS, any suggestions as to how to overcome such issues. Things are always difficult but with perserverance and a wish to learn, they can be overcome