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Lets Paint The Kettle Black (2) Do You Have A Bitch ? Put On Your Rubbers And Wade In.

Discussion in 'Safety valve' started by ireland, Jul 25, 2007.

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  1. Auslander

    Auslander Senior member

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    gerry, you a gold star and a cookie for that one. excellent! karma in action!
     
  2. Phlax

    Phlax Guest

    My bitch...some things never change; ignorance, assholes and bad grammar.

    Edit: Code glitch.
     
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  3. ddp

    ddp Moderator Staff Member

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    gerry, next time put the cane thru the front spokes not the back ones.
     
  4. PacMan777

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    gerry1
    I was thinking (painful, I know). When the folks with the funny SS numbers come in, see how they react when you tell them all new applications have to be cleared through ICE and the FBI and would they mind coming back in tomorrow. :) See what happens when I think... maybe I shouldn't on such heavy topics. LOL

    Lp531
    The options for the ball were listed on the net. The option selected by most viewers was to brand the ball.

    That means 61% (6,100,000 votes) of those interested enough to vote wanted the ball either destroyed or marked to indicate a tainted record. Only 39% (3,900,000 votes) were in favor of sending the ball to Cooperstown unmarked. It's not just Ecko, but the people who voted.

    You say it's about respect for the game and the players. I don't think many of the old players would have much to say. The players today should show some respect for the game and fans before they expect any in return. It's the players who've made the situation what it is. Respect may be an issue, but the players are the ones who helped destroy it with steroid use and their strike policies for holding up franchises for even more exorbitant salaries.

    Neverhap
    I was talking about OJ being acquitted in criminal court and then losing in civil court. I likened that situation to your reasoning on Bonds "innocent til proven guilty". (More or less joking about the situation.) Baseball really doesn't want to know if Bonds committed the act or not. Sports Illustrated wrote a story on the investigation of Bonds steroid use. You might be interested.
    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/baseball/mlb/03/06/news.excerpt/index.html
    Too many people saw what was going on for it to be a secret. It's not a legal case that sets precedence for rights that is involved. The situation is about a player wanting respect for a record he may not have earned honestly.
     
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  5. gerry1

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    @Pac ... in as much as I think O.J. is a worm, I never really understood the concept of being "not guilty" in criminal court and then guilty (for all intents and purposes) in another. Guilty or not guilty seem pretty black and white to me. It's been explained to me many times but I can never seem to understand the explanation.
     
  6. PacMan777

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    With OJ the criminal case was a farce. With Ito, Clark, Darden, and Fuhrman, it was a comedy of errors. I watched a lot of the circus for entertainment. It beat the soap operas. LOL The defense played the race card. Fuhrman made that easy. And only in a warm climate would anyone fall for "if the glove doesn't fit, don't convict". Anyone whose ever owned a pair of leather gloves in a cold climate know they shrink and harden when exposed to snow. Blood would really do a number on gloves as far as shrinkage and stiffening. What the prosecution should have done was buy a pair of gloves the same size and brand from the same vendor. Still it would have been difficult to convict OJ at that time with that jury, even if there had been a picture of him committing the crime. The burden of proof wasn't as high in the civil case and the preponderance of evidence convicted OJ in that court. Plus, the civil court judge closed the proceedings so the case wouldn't be a media circus.
     
  7. garmoon

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    gerry

    Get a good lawyer for the bike incident.

    As far as OJ case. It was black and white. Blacks thought he was innocent and whites thought he was guilty. Two different colored juries in two different colored towns. American justice, an oxymoron.
     
  8. Phlax

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    Politics, anyone?
     
  9. Lp531

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    @pacman777
    We all know how accurate on line polls are...especially ones ran for what...a week or two...

    Like I said Marc Ecko had the Right to Buy and Brand the Ball...It is his to do with as he pleases...However...The Hall of Fame is Wrong for Endorsing and Helping Marc to Brand the Ball...then Displaying it...

    It is an Insult to the Players of the Game and those in shrined in the Hall...Current Players and those in shrined have begun speaking out against it...this is Desecration of a Historically Significant Item for a PUBLICITY STUNT...nothing more...Marc Ecko is not a Hero for doing this...He is not doing a Public Service...He is doing this for Publicity for Himself...and his Clothing Line...

    I personally Hope Willie Mays pulls all his memorabilia from the Hall...and Refuses to Attend Future Inductions...and I foresee other Players and there Families Following Suit...It is a Disgrace...

    No hard Feeling...Pacman777...I believe in your Rights to Your Own Opinion...as I believe in My Rights to My Own Opinion...I just foresee this type of thing happening in the Future Now...Buying Historical Items to Destroy or Disgrace as a Form of Publicity is Dangerous Road to Travel...and is a Travesty in the Making...
     
  10. PacMan777

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    The bias for the criminal trial was 8 blacks and 4 whites, with memories of the race riots fresh in everyone's mind. Add the "dream team" ($4 million) OJ assembled for his defense and it's no wonder he got off. I'm one of those who think OJ probably did it, but Darden and Clark must have spent more time at play than work because they did a poor job of presenting the proof. The civil trial was lower profile and the jury was evenly split between white and black. That means some black people helped convict OJ in civil court (and the court of popular opinion). The black community has come to realize what a strange character OJ is. His last escapade is only a part of the ongoing saga. ;)
     
  11. Lethal_B

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    alright peeps, i think we've had our dose of politics in here.. you's know the rules ;-)
     
  12. Lethal_B

    Lethal_B Moderator Staff Member

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    my bitch, split up with the girlfriend.. that lasted all of 3 weeks [​IMG]

    i have my eyes elsewhere anyway.. jan, where are you? ;-)
     
  13. gerry1

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    @ddp ... it may well have been his front spokes; there was such a mess all at once, I actually don't remember! He sure hit hard though ... as did I. What ticks me off is that it happens all the time; they don't even have the sense to at least ride IN your direction so that one can at least see them coming!
     
  14. GrandpaBW

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    You "skin hound", you. :)
     
  15. Lethal_B

    Lethal_B Moderator Staff Member

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    lol.. girls dominate my life even though i should be 100% focused on my studies :-(

    I bet you were a right skin-hound when you were my age ;-)
     
  16. cincyrob

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    well let me start off with the only record TY cobbhas/had that ment anything that little huslter from cincinnati broke that record. 4192 thank you very much baseball. is that ball or base in the hall of fame nope... the cincinnati reds hall of fame it is.

    ever since i was a kid and first started playing ball all i wanted to do was go to cooperstow, but since 1985 they can have the place, its ok to take drugs, steal, kill, beat your wife and you can get in as long as you dont say anything about the gay lover of the commisioner at the time..

    not getting nasty with ya Lp531 yor quote qaS JUST THE FIRST ONE I READ..LOL
     
  17. Lp531

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    Nope...No offense taken Cincy...Actually would just like to hear your opinion of the *...since I know you Love the Game and I assume...know a good deal about.the History of the Game and the Controversies in the past...about putting * next to records..:)
     
  18. ireland

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    Dear Wife:

    I'm writing you this letter to tell you that I'm leaving you for good. I've
    been a good man to you for seven years and I have nothing to show for it.
    These last two weeks have been hell. Your boss called to tell me that you
    had quit your job today and that was the last straw.

    Last week, you came home and didn't even notice that I had gotten a new hair
    cut, cooked your favorite meal and even wore a brand new pair of silk
    boxers. You came home and ate in two minutes, and went straight to sleep
    after watching all of your soaps.

    You don't tell me you love me anymore, you don't want sex anymore or
    anything. Either you're cheating on me or you don't love me anymore,
    whatever the case is, I'm gone.

    Your EX-Husband

    P.S. Don't try to find me. Your SISTER and I are moving away to West
    Virginia together! Have a great life!


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    THE RESPONSE
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    Dear Ex-Husband:

    Nothing has made my day more than receiving your letter. It's true that you
    and I have been married for seven years, although a good man is a far cry
    from what you've been. I watch my soaps so much because they drown out your
    constant whining and griping. Too bad that doesn't work.

    I did notice when you got a hair cut last week, the first Thing that came to
    mind was "You look just like a girl!" but my mother raised me not to say
    anything if you can't say anything nice. And when you cooked my favorite
    meal, you must have gotten me confused with MY SISTER, because I stopped
    eating pork seven years ago.

    I turned away from you when you had those new silk boxers on because the
    price tag was still on them. I prayed that it was a coincidence that my
    sister had just borrowed fifty dollars from me that morning ... And your
    silk boxers were $49.99.

    After all of this, I still loved you and felt that we could work it out. So
    when I discovered that I had hit the lotto for ten million dollars, I quit
    my job and bought us two
    Tickets to Jamaica . But when I got home you were gone. Everything happens
    for a reason I guess.

    I hope you have the fulfilling life you always wanted. My lawyer said that
    with the letter that you wrote, you won't get a dime from me. So take care.

    Signed

    Rich As H_e_ll and Free!


    P.S. I don't know if I ever told you this but Carla, my sister, was born
    Carl. I hope that's not a problem.
     
  19. sammorris

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    Lol nice.

    Girls have had no effect on my studies fortunately. All of it goes on this forum and/or my PC. :D
     
  20. blivetNC

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    @Cincy and the baseball fans out there,
    In my honest opinion, baseball lost its appeal to me when they went on strike back in the late 90's, prior to that I was a diehard Red Sox fan, and also a follower of the local team (Baltimore Orioles) but became bitterly disenchanted when they all went on their crybaby status and walked out. As far as I'm concerned, that put an asterisk on baseball for all time. 'Nuff said.
     
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